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DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

Joe6

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Joe6 » Mon, 20 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Has anyone who experienced abnormaly low-framerates in games with DX7
tried DX7a yet?

DX7 butchered framerates on my Voodoo2 12MB system, and it was such a
pain to uninstall, I don't want to try it again unless I know this
problem has been fixed.

Joe McGinn
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GA-Sports Writer
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PHendrix

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by PHendrix » Mon, 20 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I canonly tell you that DX7a works great for me.  I had major controller
problems with DX7, and also experienced problems using my 12 meg voodoo 2.
Using 7a, everything works great for me now.
Daniel Lichtenberge

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Daniel Lichtenberge » Mon, 20 Dec 1999 04:00:00



I got extremely low framerates with Dirt Track Racing and Force
Feedback enabled, this is fixed now. Other games worked fine with DX7.

Daniel

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Rob

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Rob » Mon, 20 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Joe,

If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
something right.


Andrew Cowel

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Andrew Cowel » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Not so. The problems were widely reported. Besides why would MS fix
something that wasn't broke?
Andrew

>Joe,

>If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
>something right.

Rob

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Rob » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00

An upgrade doesn't necessarily mean something was "broke."  7a just improves
force feedback support.  If you get new drivers for your video card, does
that mean that the card didn't work right before?  It just works better.


> Not so. The problems were widely reported. Besides why would MS fix
> something that wasn't broke?
> Andrew


> >Joe,

> >If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
> >something right.

Joe6

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Joe6 » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00


>If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
>something right.

You must work for a games customer support department. You've
obviously read the first rule in their manual:

1. ALWAYS blame the user.

Joe McGinn
_________________________
GA-Sports Writer
http://www.ga-sports.com/

Joe6

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Joe6 » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00


>If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
>something right.

P.S. - I see you haven't responded to the many substantive objections
to your assertions in the previous DX7a thread (on this group). Are
you some kind of troll, you just go around making unsupportable claims
and then disappear when challenged?

Joe McGinn
_________________________
GA-Sports Writer
http://www.ga-sports.com/

Rob

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Rob » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00

What objections?  I see two responses here; yours and Andrew's.  I'm just
saying that DirectX poses no threat to anyone's system if configured
properly.  The hesitation to downlaod it  just seems a little silly to me.
You wouldn't have a problem downloading a soundcard or video card driver.
DX and all the drivers you download are small but steady improvements for
your products.
Randy Wilso

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Randy Wilso » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00


>An upgrade doesn't necessarily mean something was "broke."  7a just
improves
>force feedback support.  If you get new drivers for your video card, does
>that mean that the card didn't work right before?  It just works better.

Yeah! And in the case of ppl using N3 & MS Presion Pro Wheel (non-FF), it
may actually just WORK!

Randy



>> Not so. The problems were widely reported. Besides why would MS fix
>> something that wasn't broke?
>> Andrew


>> >Joe,

>> >If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
>> >something right.

Ian Parke

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Ian Parke » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00

My system worked fine with all versions of DX before 7, but 7 caused a lot
of slowdown in GPL, 7a has now fixed this. This tells me that MS stuffed up
somewhere along the line as many people also had similar and worse probs in
previously fine systems.

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> Joe,

> If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
> something right.



> > Has anyone who experienced abnormaly low-framerates in games with DX7
> > tried DX7a yet?

> > DX7 butchered framerates on my Voodoo2 12MB system, and it was such a
> > pain to uninstall, I don't want to try it again unless I know this
> > problem has been fixed.

> > Joe McGinn
> > _________________________
> > GA-Sports Writer
> > http://www.ga-sports.com/

parche

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by parche » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00


No,you just don't know how to"correctly configure your system" - Just ask
Rob
                                                    ;-) Phillip

Ian Parke

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Ian Parke » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Thats what I'd figured, but maybe its direct X that doesn't know how to
"correctly configure your system" and I'm getting the blame ;)

--
Ian Parker

UKGPL League
http://members.xoom.com/ukgpl/index.html
http://www.ukgpl.com
--



> > My system worked fine with all versions of DX before 7, but 7 caused a
lot
> > of slowdown in GPL, 7a has now fixed this. This tells me that MS stuffed
> up
> > somewhere along the line as many people also had similar and worse probs
> in
> > previously fine systems.

> No,you just don't know how to"correctly configure your system" - Just ask
> Rob
>                                                     ;-) Phillip

Roger Walke

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Roger Walke » Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:00:00


This is due to the fact that it is a lot easier to go back to older
sound/video card drivers than it is to get rid of a bad DX version. When you
get screwed by one these Direct X bugs, I think you might be a little more
open minded.

Larr

DX7a - Question for people who had problems with DX7

by Larr » Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Oh, come on Joe...

-Larry


> Joe,

> If you had problems with previous versions of DX, you weren't doing
> something right.



> > Has anyone who experienced abnormaly low-framerates in games with DX7
> > tried DX7a yet?

> > DX7 butchered framerates on my Voodoo2 12MB system, and it was such a
> > pain to uninstall, I don't want to try it again unless I know this
> > problem has been fixed.

> > Joe McGinn
> > _________________________
> > GA-Sports Writer
> > http://www.ga-sports.com/


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