rec.autos.simulators

> Jay Wolfe wrote
> >this is horseshit! some of the goddam cars do not handle well in GPL -
> PERIOD. they
> >ARE too twitchy and they ARE too unforgiving.And that's how they were in
> reality.

> You've just answered your own problem. Handling a "sim car" is very
> different to handling a "simulated car". Judging GPL by what you know from
> previous sims is not particularly valid.

> btw - the Ferrari is great round Monaco!

>> >bite me. your "holier-than-thou" small-dick posturing is getting
>> >tiresome.

>> If you lack the ability to drive the faster cars, maybe you should stick
>> with a Coventry or BRM an the Novice trainer level, and leave the real
>> men with the faster stuff...

>> Putz...

>ha ha ha! thanks for proving my point so well! you crack me up.

> > but, what do i know. i'm just a degreed scientist and former professional
> > athlete (READ: superior hand/eye coordination).

> Yeah, yeah... but how big is your***?

> too far. how can i say "too far"? simple. the volume of complaints in this
> respect are testimony. i can handle "poor handling" just like the next guy, but
> it is rediculous to think that a car would swerve completely from one side of
> the track to the other. and many others also believe this.  "hey, we have to
> make these simulated cars appear as though they are tough to handle. let's make
> them swerve at high RPM's, maybe that will work." papyrus missed the mark on
> this one.

> fortunately, it doesn't take a physicist to see the problems inherent in the
> simulation. can you say "program flaw"?  take a look at all of the post
> regarding the overly poor handling. the compu-geeks at papyrus were obviously
> trying to simulate poor-handling (since this is what was told to them) and went
> too far. how can i say "too far"? simple. the volume of complaints in this
> respect are testimony. i can handle "poor handling" just like the next guy, but
> it is rediculous to think that a car would swerve completely from one side of
> the track to the other. and many others also believe this.  "hey, we have to
> make these simulated cars appear as though they are tough to handle. let's make
> them swerve at high RPM's, maybe that will work." papyrus missed the mark on
> this one.

> > > but, what do i know. i'm just a degreed scientist and former professional
> > > athlete (READ: superior hand/eye coordination).

> > Yeah, yeah... but how big is your***?

> why, trips, you silly boy. my johnson is short enough that i will be racing the
> 200HP car as soon as i can transfer the GP sounds to them. sigh. at least my
> willie provides me with superior wind resistance.   ; - )

> is your real name "Horace Caulk"?

>     Anyway, sounds like maybe you've fallen into the MS joystick setup/driver black hole.
> Use the generic calibration from within GPL's options and try again! Setup issues can lead
> to what your talking about also. And a lack of patience, hehehehehehehe. Having come close
> to mastering all ICR2 tracks, I felt like a rookie when I first began with GPL! How a true
> rookie would feel boggles the mind!

> >     Anyway, sounds like maybe you've fallen into the MS joystick setup/driver black hole.
> > Use the generic calibration from within GPL's options and try again! Setup issues can lead
> > to what your talking about also. And a lack of patience, hehehehehehehe. Having come close
> > to mastering all ICR2 tracks, I felt like a rookie when I first began with GPL! How a true
> > rookie would feel boggles the mind!

> thanks for not bashing me TOO hard, byron. winky-wink. i would put it down to a possible
> calibration problem, but the stability of a couple of the cars is in the manageable range. i
> will, however, use scientific methodology and reset, retest and reinstall to rule out each
> factor. i still maintain that the amount of negative feedback generated so far from others
> supports a problem within the program itself. i'm not the only one - just the rudest.
> by the way, i tried to stop buffing the german helmet for a few laps and actually drive with
> both hands. that seemed to really help matters quite a bit.

>> but, what do i know. i'm just a degreed scientist and former professional
>> athlete (READ: superior hand/eye coordination).

>Yeah, yeah... but how big is your***?

>Trips

> > Fact is that this is the best simulator that has been made for the PC market
> > (there might be others for other OS's but I doubt it). That said, it takes
> > skill. Further, it would help if you were competent in a real race car. Some
> > have said the game is too hard...how many of these folks have ever tried to
> > race? Or even just *driven* a race car? (there is a *big* difference) Driving
> > a race car at reasonable speeds *is* hard, and racing the thing is *very
> > hard*.

> > The game is *not* too hard, it is realistic. For those that don't appreciate
> > it, go drive a brainless (no-real-skill-needed) game that you can drive using
> > the keyboard. This game is certainly not for everyone....but then again
> > neither is racing!

> > Use the game to practice up on your car control skills, and remember if you
> > can't handle a *simulator* then don't try the stuff on the road/track!

> this is horseshit! some of the goddam cars do not handle well in GPL - PERIOD. they
> ARE too twitchy and they ARE too unforgiving. this is a fact. open our eyes and
> notice all of the posts to this effect. i have done 100's of laps on this sim as
> well as other sims. i can handle a SIM car just fine. the GPL cars were DESIGNED to
> perform somewhat twitchy to simulate the real cars. this does not mean that they
> are perfect, does it? in the real world, why would anybody drive a ferrari all over
> the road if a lotus held a perfect driving line? not going to happen.
> "but lord jay, this is the most accurate blah blah blah..."  horseshit. IT IS NOT
> REAL!!!! it does not mimic a real race car. it tries to come close, but fails
> miserably in some respects.
> "but lord jay, i've driven a real race car and blah blah blah..."  horseshit. there
> wouldn't be a single real-world driver who would volunteer to drive some of these
> cars with the amount of spasticity in the handling the way it has been designed in
> the computer simulation. a 1/8" turn of the handle makes you swing to the complete
> opposite side of the track? c'mon, fellas. open your eyes. yes, GPL is much closer
> than other simulations at attempting to mimic the true driving feel, but it is NOT
> realistic. we will be scoffing at this sim in five years - hopefully.
> "gee, lord jay, maybe you should try one of those arcady-type games that blah blah
> blah..."  bite me. your "holier-than-thou" small-dick posturing is getting
> tiresome.

> nutrasweet is simulated sugar, but i sure as hell can tell the difference.

> INCOMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!