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Seat of your pants....

Alan Coate

Seat of your pants....

by Alan Coate » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:15:10

Nearly 5 years old and still no auto simulator to beat GPL for 'seat of your
pants' driving.....

Papy well ahead of their time, huh?

Go4it.....

Alan Coate

Seat of your pants....

by Alan Coate » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:16:55

October 1997

My mistake, Nearly 6 years...


Bruce Kennewel

Seat of your pants....

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:27:44

Aaaah....memories!
I remember the day well when I first saw the little demo video of the two
Lotuses racing together at Monza.
I watched that clip over, and over, and over, drooling all over the
keyboard.

And when the playable demo was issued.......Good Grief! I think I started
playing after dinner that night and never went to bed!

And I STILL get just as much enjoyment out of that package, and what has
spun of it.

Bruce.


> October 1997

> My mistake, Nearly 6 years...



> > Nearly 5 years old and still no auto simulator to beat GPL for 'seat of
> your
> > pants' driving.....

> > Papy well ahead of their time, huh?

> > Go4it.....

Redmis

Seat of your pants....

by Redmis » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:30:00

Nope, it obviously just struck a chord with you at the time and now you're
too blinded by nostalgia to see past the end of your nose.  You're not alone
here....

Joachim Trens

Seat of your pants....

by Joachim Trens » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:48:43

Papy was certainly well ahead of their time when they released GPL I think
in it was October '98, and they're still ahead of their time because N2k3
beats GPL hands down on most accounts, including physics and seat of pants
driving :)

Achim


Malc

Seat of your pants....

by Malc » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:09:12


I'd have to agree with this up to a point. gpl has been the benchmark for a
long time though, and imo it's still right up there with the best in terms
of sheer entertainment value.

Rolls Royce are described as making the 'Best Cars in the World'. They are
not the most well made, or the fastest, or the most powerful or well
equipped, but to drive one (or own one I guess) makes you feel special, and
as long as you don't try to justify what 'best' means too hard you can still
believe it.

In the same way, imo gpl is still 'King of Sims' and probably will be for a
long time.
Nostalgia is part of the reason why I reckon, and in those terms it's right
up there with space invaders, pacman and Elite.

Malc.

John Simmon

Seat of your pants....

by John Simmon » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:10:46


says...

When the playable demo came out, I decided I didn't like GPL., and
that I wouldn't buy it.  However, so many people raved about it when
it was finally released in stores that I had to take a serious look
at it.  I ended up liking it enough to run two league seasons. It's
definitely one of the best (if not the best) racing sim ever
produced.

It's really too bad that Papy wasn't given time to further develop
the extensibility that was obviously designed into the game.  Have
the ability to race with different types of cars would be a great
feature for the more serious sims.

ymenar

Seat of your pants....

by ymenar » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:23:31


> Nope, it obviously just struck a chord with you at the time and now you're
> too blinded by nostalgia to see past the end of your nose.

Bzzzzzzz, wrong answer.  The quality of a game doesn't diminish with time.
It stays the same.  You are blinded by the sheer power of corporate media
that says to you "This thing, now, it's better then anything before!" when
most of the developers can't even equal some stuff made 6 years ago.

But the real answer is, NR2003 is technically superior in about every aspect
to GPL, it's truly the "king of sims".  F1C is a couple of years behind
NR2003.

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Redmis

Seat of your pants....

by Redmis » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:45:54

In most respects, yes, except the ones that really matter.

David Butter

Seat of your pants....

by David Butter » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:31:08


And for those of us who don't get e***d by NASCAR games[1],
excellent as they may be, that's still the case.

[1] No, not even on road courses.

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Redmis

Seat of your pants....

by Redmis » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:36:09

That's the thing I don't get - I love GPL, GTR2002, F1C etc. but N2003 even
on the road courses feels like it's lacking something and I can't work out
what it is....

Jan Verschuere

Seat of your pants....

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:50:25

Chassis rigidity. <g>

Jan.
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Haqsa

Seat of your pants....

by Haqsa » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 00:27:49

Pretty sure it was 1998.  I remember it coming out about the same time as
Half-Life.  Just felt like being nit-picky.  ;o)

As far as seat of the pants feel I think I get more from NR 2003, at least
on the road courses.  Honestly I sometimes feel like I can feel the texture
of the pavement in NR2003, it's uncanny.  But admittedly in a lot of way
it's not as *fun* a feeling as GPL.  Yep, GPL is the most fun arcade racer I
have ever played...

<runs away very very quickly>


Nick

Seat of your pants....

by Nick » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 00:52:17


Well, for me, it stands just behind Quake as one of the best games ever
made. Some might question the Q word, but as a developer, it really was/is
something special, as it introducted a whole bunch of new ideas that not
only revolutionised the FPS genre, but also found their way into almost
every genre of computer *** since.

Mitch_

Seat of your pants....

by Mitch_ » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:14:31

What a year 98 was eh.  Probably the best year EVER for PC *** and likely
will not be repeated.  Falcon4, Hlaf-Life  and GPL.   All three and all the
many mods are still played religously by many after all these years.  The
real sad part is of the three only HL qualified as a financial success.
Gilman Louie, where are you now?

Mitch


> Pretty sure it was 1998.  I remember it coming out about the same time as
> Half-Life.  Just felt like being nit-picky.  ;o)

> As far as seat of the pants feel I think I get more from NR 2003, at least
> on the road courses.  Honestly I sometimes feel like I can feel the
texture
> of the pavement in NR2003, it's uncanny.  But admittedly in a lot of way
> it's not as *fun* a feeling as GPL.  Yep, GPL is the most fun arcade racer
I
> have ever played...

> <runs away very very quickly>



> > October 1997

> > My mistake, Nearly 6 years...


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