Everyone seems to be doing alot of moaning and groaning about daytona
and indy tracks for N2. Well guys it's not doing much good here. Pappy
wants the tracks just as bad as you do, lot of revenue there huh?
Why don't we try another way to get the tracks we want? If someone out
there knows the email address that Tony George and Daytona USA can be
reached at. With all of the people in this group our point can be
made.
> Everyone seems to be doing alot of moaning and groaning about daytona
> and indy tracks for N2. Well guys it's not doing much good here. Pappy
> wants the tracks just as bad as you do, lot of revenue there huh?
> Why don't we try another way to get the tracks we want? If someone out
> there knows the email address that Tony George and Daytona USA can be
> reached at. With all of the people in this group our point can be
> made.
Mike
> > Everyone seems to be doing alot of moaning and groaning about daytona
> > and indy tracks for N2. Well guys it's not doing much good here. Pappy
> > wants the tracks just as bad as you do, lot of revenue there huh?
> > Why don't we try another way to get the tracks we want? If someone out
> > there knows the email address that Tony George and Daytona USA can be
> > reached at. With all of the people in this group our point can be
> > made.
> You don't think Tony George gives a shit about the FANS do you? If he
> did he would never have turned the Indy 500 into a farce and put dogshit
> IRL drivers and teams on the track. Tony George only cares about one
> thing, power. The fans can get screwed.
> Mike
Fact #1 The Hulman family ARE the most powerful people in racing.
Always have been,always will be. Tony George is not trying to flex
his power.If he did then you WOULD see some fireworks.
Fact #2 Tony George is also a *** DRIVER himself, not just
some suit and tie delegating authority. He loves the fans of auto
racing and has shown it time and time again to the people of
Indianapolis let alone the rest of the racing community.
Fact #3 The reason for the IRL is to bring Indycar racing back to where
it belongs--OVALS. Plus to make it more affordable to the guy that
otherwise would never be able to get involved in the sport.
Fact #4 The IRL is set up to make Indycar racing more
competitive,instead of having Al"let me ram this guy into the wall"
Unser jr or Michael "If I don`t when every race it`s someone elses
fault" Andretti win because they have owners that have pockets that
stretch all the way to China.
And finally Fact #5 Probably the most important reason for the IRL
is to slow the cars down to semi sane speeds. I`ll bet Scott Brayton`s
beautiful wife and adorable little girl wish Tony had done it sooner.
But then again you may be right, but I seriously doubt it.
If the CART circut is so great why are drivers going to Nascar (like
Robby Gordon and John Andretti), and why did one of the greatest drivers
in all of Indycar Racing history move over to the IRL. Because the cars
were getting to dangerous and the racing was to boring. BTW, I think it
seems to me that Nascar has provided a great challenge for Indycar
drivers (competition wise and driving skill). And did I forget the Tony
Stewart is moving to Nascar next year.
writes:
Reading some one-sided reports on TG, Mike...?
Best Regards,
Marc
> >Fact #3 The reason for the IRL is to bring Indycar racing back to where
> >it belongs--OVALS. Plus to make it more affordable to the guy that
> >otherwise would never be able to get involved in the sport.
> "Racing" and "affordable" shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
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>Fact #3 The reason for the IRL is to bring Indycar racing back to where
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>"Racing" and "affordable" shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
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: If the CART circut is so great why are drivers going to Nascar (like
: Robby Gordon and John Andretti), and why did one of the greatest drivers
: in all of Indycar Racing history move over to the IRL. Because the cars
: were getting to dangerous and the racing was to boring. BTW, I think it
: seems to me that Nascar has provided a great challenge for Indycar
: drivers (competition wise and driving skill). And did I forget the Tony
: Stewart is moving to Nascar next year.
Well let's see, John Andretti got a better offer from NASCAR. Robby
Gordon was not doing well in CART, his driving style and agressiveness
will fit better in NASCAR.
Now, just who are we talking about, "one of the greatest drivers"?
Could we be talking about A.J. Foyt? Well he left CART because he had
issues with CART that he could not get resolved to his liking.
On another issue, I am tired of hearing the Tony George wanted to make
IRL safer than CART. Is this why he undid the safety features to the
Indy Track? Is this why he allowed the drivers to drive in cars which
did not even match CART's 1996 safety codes? Don't get me wrong,
there's room for another open-wheel racing series. Let's just get the
facts right. Tony's in it for the glory and the money. That's what
they are all in it for.
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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.
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> : If the CART circut is so great why are drivers going to Nascar (like
> : Robby Gordon and John Andretti), and why did one of the greatest drivers
> : in all of Indycar Racing history move over to the IRL. Because the cars
> : were getting to dangerous and the racing was to boring. BTW, I think it
> : seems to me that Nascar has provided a great challenge for Indycar
> : drivers (competition wise and driving skill). And did I forget the Tony
> : Stewart is moving to Nascar next year.
> Well let's see, John Andretti got a better offer from NASCAR. Robby
> Gordon was not doing well in CART, his driving style and agressiveness
> will fit better in NASCAR.
> Now, just who are we talking about, "one of the greatest drivers"?
> Could we be talking about A.J. Foyt? Well he left CART because he had
> issues with CART that he could not get resolved to his liking.
> On another issue, I am tired of hearing the Tony George wanted to make
> IRL safer than CART. Is this why he undid the safety features to the
> Indy Track? Is this why he allowed the drivers to drive in cars which
> did not even match CART's 1996 safety codes? Don't get me wrong,
> there's room for another open-wheel racing series. Let's just get the
> facts right. Tony's in it for the glory and the money. That's what
> they are all in it for.
> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > : If the CART circut is so great why are drivers going to Nascar (like
> > : Robby Gordon and John Andretti), and why did one of the greatest drivers
> > : in all of Indycar Racing history move over to the IRL. Because the cars
> > : were getting to dangerous and the racing was to boring. BTW, I think it
> > : seems to me that Nascar has provided a great challenge for Indycar
> > : drivers (competition wise and driving skill). And did I forget the Tony
> > : Stewart is moving to Nascar next year.
> > Well let's see, John Andretti got a better offer from NASCAR. Robby
> > Gordon was not doing well in CART, his driving style and agressiveness
> > will fit better in NASCAR.
> > Now, just who are we talking about, "one of the greatest drivers"?
> > Could we be talking about A.J. Foyt? Well he left CART because he had
> > issues with CART that he could not get resolved to his liking.
> > On another issue, I am tired of hearing the Tony George wanted to make
> > IRL safer than CART. Is this why he undid the safety features to the
> > Indy Track? Is this why he allowed the drivers to drive in cars which
> > did not even match CART's 1996 safety codes? Don't get me wrong,
> > there's room for another open-wheel racing series. Let's just get the
> > facts right. Tony's in it for the glory and the money. That's what
> > they are all in it for.
> My my my,how little you know. I`m amazed you can find you way to the
> keyboard each day.
--
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necessarily reflect those of my employer
> > > : If the CART circut is so great why are drivers going to Nascar (like
> > > : Robby Gordon and John Andretti), and why did one of the greatest drivers
> > > : in all of Indycar Racing history move over to the IRL. Because the cars
> > > : were getting to dangerous and the racing was to boring. BTW, I think it
> > > : seems to me that Nascar has provided a great challenge for Indycar
> > > : drivers (competition wise and driving skill). And did I forget the Tony
> > > : Stewart is moving to Nascar next year.
> > > Well let's see, John Andretti got a better offer from NASCAR. Robby
> > > Gordon was not doing well in CART, his driving style and agressiveness
> > > will fit better in NASCAR.
> > > Now, just who are we talking about, "one of the greatest drivers"?
> > > Could we be talking about A.J. Foyt? Well he left CART because he had
> > > issues with CART that he could not get resolved to his liking.
> > > On another issue, I am tired of hearing the Tony George wanted to make
> > > IRL safer than CART. Is this why he undid the safety features to the
> > > Indy Track? Is this why he allowed the drivers to drive in cars which
> > > did not even match CART's 1996 safety codes? Don't get me wrong,
> > > there's room for another open-wheel racing series. Let's just get the
> > > facts right. Tony's in it for the glory and the money. That's what
> > > they are all in it for.
> > My my my,how little you know. I`m amazed you can find you way to the
> > keyboard each day.
> Hmmm ... you seem to know even less, given the facts and insights
> included
> in your post. I happen to agree with Michael, and I don't see how you
> can
> agrue with him without revealing your opinions ...
> --
> Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538
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> Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and do not
> necessarily reflect those of my employer
I bet Sir Winston Churchill had thought of that argument in 1940, then
none of his other inspirational speeches would have been necessary to
inspire everyone.
Cheers!
John
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