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My, my, how little time you've spent on this group to be casting
nasturtiums at people. I'm amazed that you don't just put both feet in
your mouth and be done with it....

Cheers! ;)
John

PS - What I'm saying here is, Mike is a well respected cat around these
here parts, and I, for one, think he deserves a little more time spent
on a reply than the one you gave his well thought out post.

Just striking a blow for a friendlier, more intellectually stimulating
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I think most of us that have followed the unfortunate debacle that
Tony George brought on Indycar racing would agree pretty much with
what Michael said.

Nothing wrong with starting another open-wheel racing series, but Tony
went and ruined the tradition of the Indy 500 just for his own glory.
I'm glad CART finally decided to quit using the Indy name, this will
end much of the confusion for some of the not-as-well informed TV fans
who tune in to IRL events wondering where is Little Al, Michael,
and the rest of the upper quality drivers have gone, after the misleading
adverti***t done by ABC and the IRL for some of these races IMHO.

Oh and if you do want to post further in this thread, do list out
why you disagree and spare us the childish name calling and insults.

Cheers.

--John
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: >My my my,how little you know. I`m amazed you can find you way to the
: >keyboard each day.

: PS - What I'm saying here is, Mike is a well respected cat around these
: here parts, and I, for one, think he deserves a little more time spent
: on a reply than the one you gave his well thought out post.

: Just striking a blow for a friendlier, more intellectually stimulating
: r.a.s.

Heck, I could have been wrong in my post.  I know it's happened "once"
before, I'm sure it's bound to happen "once" again.  In a way I would
like to get the second one out of the way ;-)

I am always open to hearing the other side of an issue.  But, I also
know I was more than likely asking for it, since this whole thread sorta
don't belong in r.a.s.  But, hey J.D. please do enlighten us.  I know
that these kind of issues aren't really "black 'n white".  That's why I
was trying to show the other side of the issues.

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Cheers.

--John
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 Note: my real e-mail address is below. Delete the asterisks.
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  Seattle, Washington USA.    |    http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsilva

: >My my my,how little you know. I`m amazed you can find you way to the
: >keyboard each day.

: PS - What I'm saying here is, Mike is a well respected cat around these
: here parts, and I, for one, think he deserves a little more time spent
: on a reply than the one you gave his well thought out post.

: Just striking a blow for a friendlier, more intellectually stimulating
: r.a.s.

Heck, I could have been wrong in my post.  I know it's happened "once"
before, I'm sure it's bound to happen "once" again.  In a way I would
like to get the second one out of the way ;-)

I am always open to hearing the other side of an issue.  But, I also
know I was more than likely asking for it, since this whole thread sorta
don't belong in r.a.s.  But, hey J.D. please do enlighten us.  I know
that these kind of issues aren't really "black 'n white".  That's why I
was trying to show the other side of the issues.

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Agreed.

Point of debate. It is your OPINION that Indycar racing belongs on ovals.
I personally prefer oval racing to road racing but I'll admit that that doesn't
make one better than the other (but I do feel NASCAR stock cars, or trucks,
have no place on road courses, especially ones in Japan, but that's another
thread).

Again, point of debate, I watched the Indy 500 and it didn't seem much
more competitive than CART's US 500, but at least they didn't tear up
about a $1 mill worth of equipment before the start finish in Indy. But the thing
you describe happens the same way in all forms of racing, NASCAR, indycar,
dirt tracks, Formula 1, etc...

I'm not sure I agree with you on this one, otherwise maybe they would have
waited a year to repave the track, once they had the slower cars, no doubt
he intended it as a sort of "bragging right" thing, but perhaps the new
regulations were helped brought about by this trragedy.

As a whole I find myself supporting what the IRL is trying to do, especially
giving some of the most promising dirt track open wheel drivers in the nation
a chance to live their dream, something that can't truly be said about CART.
Having said this I will also say that I think it was a possibly fatal flaw in the
plan, to reserve spots in the Indy 500 for IRL drivers. But with all new chassis
and engines to be run, this becomes moot point after all.

Brian Kinkaid