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NASCAR Safety

David G Fishe

NASCAR Safety

by David G Fishe » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:55:48

This article was written in September, long before Earnhardt's death.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Again, it's pretty pathetic the way NASCAR handles safety, especially when
compared to F1. Waltrip's quote in the second paragraph is EXACTLY what I
said in my other thread. So I guess Waltrip doesn't have a clue what "real
racing" is all about either? LOL.

The best and the worst thing I can say about some of you guys who responded
in the other thread is that you are very...........average.

Enjoy the article, and from now on when you give an opinion, make sure you
do some research (like really diving into any and all information concerning
NASCAR and F1's approaches to safety). Find out the facts. Do a little work.
Did any of you do any research into F1's safety standards yet? Thought not.

This is my last word (Don) on this subject, so feel free to flame away.
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"It makes me so mad," three-time NASCAR Winston Cup champion Darrell Waltrip
said. "We're so busy. They (NASCAR officials) don't have time to ponder
anything.

"It's just like, `A guy got killed, but it's OK because he was doing what he
likes to do.' I mean, give me a break! (It's like) a guy riding down the
road and he gets shot in the head by some weirdo. (You don't say) `Well, he
was driving down his favorite road.' ... There's no rationale."

What drivers want to know is why NASCAR isn't taking the lead.

"If you were as concerned about safety as you are parity and who's getting
the most downforce, and all those issues, somewhere along the way, we've got
to stop and say, `Hey, we're getting those guys hurt over here,' " Waltrip
said. " `What's going on?' "

David G Fisher

redTe

NASCAR Safety

by redTe » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:19:21

"It's just like, `A guy got killed, but it's OK because he was doing what he
likes to do.' I mean, give me a break! (It's like) a guy riding down the
road and he gets shot in the head by some weirdo. (You don't say) `Well, he
was driving down his favourite road.' ... There's no rationale."

Who said this ? D.Waltrip ? He must have been very upset at the time because
this makes no sense at all. Talk about "no rationale". Was he pissed ?
As you quoted him, why don't you explain the logic behind it.

Gerry Aitke

NASCAR Safety

by Gerry Aitke » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:19:11


> Enjoy the article, and from now on when you give an opinion, make sure you
> do some research (like really diving into any and all information concerning
> NASCAR and F1's approaches to safety). Find out the facts. Do a little work.

Remind us all again please: How many deaths in F1 last year?
David G Fishe

NASCAR Safety

by David G Fishe » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:29:08

A link to the article is right there in the original post.

David G Fisher


Gerry Aitke

NASCAR Safety

by Gerry Aitke » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:35:19


> "It's just like, `A guy got killed, but it's OK because he was doing what he
> likes to do.' I mean, give me a break! (It's like) a guy riding down the
> road and he gets shot in the head by some weirdo. (You don't say) `Well, he
> was driving down his favourite road.' ... There's no rationale."

> Who said this ? D.Waltrip ? He must have been very upset at the time because
> this makes no sense at all. Talk about "no rationale". Was he pissed ?
> As you quoted him, why don't you explain the logic behind it.

DGF thinks all NASCAR fans, and I would presume also NASCAR drivers, are
stupid. But when one of them says something he agrees with they suddenly
become great luminaries.

It's a same Waltrip said that, because it give DGF something some else
said to regurgitate on this subject.

Cheers

Gerry

Jeff Vince

NASCAR Safety

by Jeff Vince » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:14:08


>DGF quoted DW:
>>"It's just like, `A guy got killed, but it's OK because he was doing what he
>>likes to do.' I mean, give me a break! (It's like) a guy riding down the
>>road and he gets shot in the head by some weirdo. (You don't say) `Well, he
>>was driving down his favourite road.' ... There's no rationale."

>Who said this ? D.Waltrip ? He must have been very upset at the time because
>this makes no sense at all. Talk about "no rationale". Was he pissed ?
>As you quoted him, why don't you explain the logic behind it.

   Actually, this is a Waltrip quote from September after the second
death at Loudon.  David likes to quote it without explanation (like in
the original thread).

   It's good to see that DW is now a NASCAR sage (according to DGF).
He used to have the reputation for shooting his mouth off and thinking
later.  Reminds me of someone I know...

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

David G Fishe

NASCAR Safety

by David G Fishe » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:19:53

Slowly.

I...put......the.......link........to..........the........whole........artic
le........in.........the........orginal..........post.

David G Fisher



> >DGF quoted DW:
> >>"It's just like, `A guy got killed, but it's OK because he was doing
what he
> >>likes to do.' I mean, give me a break! (It's like) a guy riding down the
> >>road and he gets shot in the head by some weirdo. (You don't say) `Well,
he
> >>was driving down his favourite road.' ... There's no rationale."

> >Who said this ? D.Waltrip ? He must have been very upset at the time
because
> >this makes no sense at all. Talk about "no rationale". Was he pissed ?
> >As you quoted him, why don't you explain the logic behind it.

>    Actually, this is a Waltrip quote from September after the second
> death at Loudon.  David likes to quote it without explanation (like in
> the original thread).

>    It's good to see that DW is now a NASCAR sage (according to DGF).
> He used to have the reputation for shooting his mouth off and thinking
> later.  Reminds me of someone I know...

> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Tim

NASCAR Safety

by Tim » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:21:16



The article says they BURIED Adam Petty's car?
Anyone know the story behind that?

Tim

Alan Conceic

NASCAR Safety

by Alan Conceic » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:05:19

You're still not allowing NASCAR to even rectify the situation, like F1 did in
1994, which has been the main push of the posts. So please, stop making a
hypocrite of yourself.

-
 Alan

                                           Dale Earnhardt, 1951-2001:
                                            "The Last American Hero"
                                                            R.I.P.

Alan Conceic

NASCAR Safety

by Alan Conceic » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:19:39

You still didn't give an explaination as to where the quote was pulled,
intentionally doing so in order to drum up support from thos who neither read
the passage or read it completely.

-
 Alan

                                           Dale Earnhardt, 1951-2001:
                                            "The Last American Hero"
                                                            R.I.P.

Rob Swindell

NASCAR Safety

by Rob Swindell » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:22:35

I think it's pretty hurtful to bash some people hero's like that. Alot of guys
here view Jimmy Clark, Graham Hill, Jack Brabham et al as their childhood
hero's. I'm only 20 years old but I sure do respect those men from the 60's /
70's.

newsgroup before that I didn't think the F1 drivers of the '60's as modeled
in GPL were brave, heroic or "real" drivers because they raced knowing death
was a real possibility. I think they were simply foolish people who didn't
value their lives very much.<<

That pissed me off. It must suck to be you, to have no sense of adventure or
passion, or romance about motor racing.


> This article was written in September, long before Earnhardt's death.

> http://www.thatsracin.com/00/0917/0915autopsies.htm

> Again, it's pretty pathetic the way NASCAR handles safety, especially when
> compared to F1. Waltrip's quote in the second paragraph is EXACTLY what I
> said in my other thread. So I guess Waltrip doesn't have a clue what "real
> racing" is all about either? LOL.

> The best and the worst thing I can say about some of you guys who responded
> in the other thread is that you are very...........average.

> Enjoy the article, and from now on when you give an opinion, make sure you
> do some research (like really diving into any and all information concerning
> NASCAR and F1's approaches to safety). Find out the facts. Do a little work.
> Did any of you do any research into F1's safety standards yet? Thought not.

> This is my last word (Don) on this subject, so feel free to flame away.
> -------------------
> "It makes me so mad," three-time NASCAR Winston Cup champion Darrell Waltrip
> said. "We're so busy. They (NASCAR officials) don't have time to ponder
> anything.

> "It's just like, `A guy got killed, but it's OK because he was doing what he
> likes to do.' I mean, give me a break! (It's like) a guy riding down the
> road and he gets shot in the head by some weirdo. (You don't say) `Well, he
> was driving down his favorite road.' ... There's no rationale."

> What drivers want to know is why NASCAR isn't taking the lead.

> "If you were as concerned about safety as you are parity and who's getting
> the most downforce, and all those issues, somewhere along the way, we've got
> to stop and say, `Hey, we're getting those guys hurt over here,' " Waltrip
> said. " `What's going on?' "

> David G Fisher

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