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Eldre

Montoya

by Eldre » Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:10:09



>> Besides, why would Juan purposely brake early, and run the risk of being
>run
>> over?  Jos screwed up, plain and simple.  From hero to goat, if you ask
>me...

>> Eldred
>  I CAN ANSWER THAT!!!!!    ya see there is group of Columbians who have it
>out for Euro's and they...the Columbines aim to shoot to the top of the
>standings by
>blowing away anyone who ......
>dave(the truth is out there)henrie

Hehe...ok...<g>

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Montoya

by J » Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:51:18

Looked to me like Jos' car got horny.

Bad luck for Montoya. After seeing him 'passing' MS, I didn't expect him to last
long. I was very impressed to see his following performance.

A driver we will hear more from

JensSchumi


>> Here in Holland we have this weird 'innocent untill proven guilty'
>> thingie..

>> Andre
>  I know, I know...I watch too much X Files...but, given the lack of
>any reason why one of the worlds best drivers would suddenly go ape and
>blast into another car, I can only conclude that either Rubens and Jos drank
>the same
>Brazillian water or nobody wants to see Williams climb back on top.
>dave henrie

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Aviato

Montoya

by Aviato » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:19:31



Give it up David. Jos even apologised to Montoya. Clearly an admission of
guilt.





> > :..(I'm also subscribed to "Verstappen Must Die Bi Monthly")
> > :

> > Verstappen should take a well-publicised trip to Columbia... somehow I
> think
> > justice would be served.

> > Dale.

Aviato

Montoya

by Aviato » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:24:04


Hear, hear

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Aviato

Montoya

by Aviato » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:26:59



350 for and 1 against  Montoya.

You lose, dummy




> > > If people read the thread, I wouldn't have to repost the excerpt and
> keep
> > > answering the same questions.

> > Shut up david; you've had your say and most people with more than one
> > brain cell disagree with you. Why don't you just admit you're wrong?
> > You're not man enough that's why!

> > Gerry

> > "I'm completely alone in my views." -- David G Fisher

Aviato

Montoya

by Aviato » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:23:00






> >> > > Here in Holland we have this weird 'innocent untill proven guilty'
> >> > > thingie..

> >> > > Andre
> >> >   I know, I know...I watch too much X Files...but, given the lack of
> >> > any reason why one of the worlds best drivers would suddenly go ape
and
> >> > blast into another car, I can only conclude that either Rubens and
Jos
> >> drank
> >> > the same
> >> > Brazillian water or nobody wants to see Williams climb back on top.
> >> > dave henrie

> >> Dave, Dave............

> >> Blaming either driver is stupid in the extreme. Obi Juan had a reason
for
> >> breaking earlier than usual, and Jos cannot be blamed for not
anticipating
> >> his action. However, it is a convention in ALL forms of racing that the
> >> driver behind has the responsibility not to ram the car in front of
him.
> >> Thus it was Jos's ERROR in this regard that caused the accident.  That
is
> >> what as known as a racing incident. Both drivers are blameless as
regards
> >> intent or neglect

> >According to the FIA, Jos was not blameless:
> >http://www.atlasf1.com/news/report.php/id/4008/.html

> Hehe, but then Rubens didn't make any mistake? He wasn't fined....
> BTW, Arrows claimed that telemetry showed that Jos braked 35 meters
> earlier, with a speed 65 Kmh less as in the previous lap....

> IMO....Jos made a mistake, but Montoya wasn't totally clean either....

> Remco

Wemmie, you can think what you like.

1. Jos collected a fine of $15000
2. Jos apologised

Fluit, fluit, die storie is uit!!!

[I am sure an Aussie like you will understand that!!]

Regards

DK

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David G Fishe

Montoya

by David G Fishe » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:44:00

I think what we have is a bunch of Montoya fans pissing and moaning because
they felt a win was stolen from him.

I think it's all pretty much irrelevant, just as Schumacher does.

From Atlas F1:

Despite the Colombian's performance, Schumacher thinks Montoya still has a
lot to prove in Formula One, and he claims that his brother Ralf should have
won the race.

"If you look at the pure lap time you see that my brother was eight-tenths
faster than Montoya's fastest time so I think the real winner should have
been my brother," Schumacher said.

David G Fisher




> > I thought Merry Gerry Dingle Berry had put me in his kill file.

> > David G Fisher

> 350 for and 1 against  Montoya.

> You lose, dummy




> > > > If people read the thread, I wouldn't have to repost the excerpt and
> > keep
> > > > answering the same questions.

> > > Shut up david; you've had your say and most people with more than one
> > > brain cell disagree with you. Why don't you just admit you're wrong?
> > > You're not man enough that's why!

> > > Gerry

> > > "I'm completely alone in my views." -- David G Fisher

Andre Warrin

Montoya

by Andre Warrin » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:49:13



Suddenly I lost some respect for Michael :(

Andre

Gregor Vebl

Montoya

by Gregor Vebl » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:25:39

Not, considering the latest US/China event ;).

> Give it up David. Jos even apologised to Montoya. Clearly an admission of
> guilt.

Mark Seer

Montoya

by Mark Seer » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:30:37

We all know about MS's lack of interest in the history of motorsport. Maybe
he should go read a book or two about the 1950's racers.

Fangio was the guy who said that a race should be won at the slowest
possible pace, hence increasing the chances of the car surviving to the end
of said race.

Was it not Fangio's record of 9 wins in a row that Shuntmeister was chasing?

MS

Dave Henri

Montoya

by Dave Henri » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:10:55


   ahhhhh  but here is the rub....  do you think Ralf will bang wheels with
his brother
and force his way past?  Sure Ralf is faster...if Team Williams is following
past practice,
they bring one setup to a race track, those setups are tested out by Ralf
not Juan.  I
know at the track both drivers are free to make changes, but the ground zero
of the setup
challenge favors Ralf not JPM.  Am I a fan?  No...do I respect his royal
highness Schumi as the final arbiter of all things f1?  nope.  I lean
towards a Scuderia moreso than an Angofile fan.
dave henrie

David Ewin

Montoya

by David Ewin » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:20:47


> >Was it not Fangio's record of 9 wins in a row that Shuntmeister was chasing?

Nope.  Alberto Ascari has that record - seven  wins in a row officially, since
they counted the Indy 500 as a World Championship event back then, even though
none of the F1 teams participated in it.  Nine wins in a row if you discount
Indy (which makes more sense).

Dave Ewing

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Gerry Aitke

Montoya

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:09:52


> I thought Merry Gerry Dingle Berry had put me in his kill file.

What's this, ***wit name calling? Another win for little old me :).

Gerry

"All I can think to say to my critics is go f**k yourselves." -- David G
Fisher

David G Fishe

Montoya

by David G Fishe » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:09:26

It looks like Michael was right about his brother and Montoya.

David G Fisher




> >I think what we have is a bunch of Montoya fans pissing and moaning
because
> >they felt a win was stolen from him.

> >I think it's all pretty much irrelevant, just as Schumacher does.

> >From Atlas F1:

> >Despite the Colombian's performance, Schumacher thinks Montoya still has
a
> >lot to prove in Formula One, and he claims that his brother Ralf should
have
> >won the race.

> >"If you look at the pure lap time you see that my brother was
eight-tenths
> >faster than Montoya's fastest time so I think the real winner should have
> >been my brother," Schumacher said.

> >David G Fisher

> Suddenly I lost some respect for Michael :(

> Andre

Andre Warrin

Montoya

by Andre Warrin » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:32:21



What, because he won the last race he should have won the race at
Brazil? You should drive on VROC more often, the fastest driver
doesn't allways win.. that's the beauty of racing.

Andre


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