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I'm pretty much sure, that I would not have gone much faster. I "might" have
tried a faster acc., but I'm not sure. We were told, that one of the resons
they put it down in HP, was that the rpm-array where you get over 600 Nm
should be much wider for us normal drivers, than on a race-setup F1. Again
we were told, that this "over" 600 Nm is at place from about 4800 rpm and
all the way up to about 9000 rpm. This is done, so we would not stall the
car if we choose a too high gear for a corner. Anyway, as we were off limit
in first and second gear with this car, we might have been off limit on much
more. A race-setup MS Ferrari is therefore much harder to change gear in the
exact right monemt, and you are having a much bigger loss for every 10 rpm
you miss this point. Of course MS will not miss this point, but we normal
"deadly" people would have, I'm sure. On the other side, MS's Ferrari has
tracktion control, and therefore would not have spun the reartires, which
means, that it is possible to drive in a lower gear without loosing the car,
but the Arrows I drove, did not have this TC. As I'm not a racedriver, nor
have experience with fast acc. I'm pretty sure, that 18000 rpm 850 bhp and
no tracktion control would not have been a very good idea :o)
I will, however, try to raise the money to return next year (or the next
year again) to try to drive the Jordan. I'm sure, this car also will be
settled down in Hp, but I would like to try to drive with a new
F1-gearshifter. (The shift that you work on the stearingwheel). Fittipaldis
F1 (the car I drove) has a "normal" clutch and a sekvential gearshift (6
gear). This means, that you only have one hand on the wheel when changing
gear. Pretty scaring at these speeds :o) The Jordan (as I understand it)
will have only 2 pedals (no clutchpedal), and the gear will be worked at the
wheel.  The Jordan will be present for the public at the opening race in
Denmark next spring (the DTC cup) I was told. The fall and winter will be
used to make the car ready for us common people to drive, but Johan might
use this Jordan for his race in the BOSS-serie next year, and therefore we
might first be able to drive it in 2003.

Beside these missing bhp, I thought a lot of how it would bee to be in the
startgrid of a real F1-race. I was alone on the track, all I should look
after was me, and my driving skills. In a race you also have to look at 21
other drivers, and they don't take care of you, they all want to be in
front!! I can now more than ever understand why these F1-drivers needs a
superlicens to go in this circus! I admire all the F1-pilots a lot more
after this. Even Marques is a clever driver, othervice he would have been
killed or hunted out long time ago. The topdrivers is of course better, but
in my opinion all people who gets a superlicens is really good drivers. I
would not have the courage to make a start in a full F1 field.

If you don't know Johan Rajamaki, here is a snip from his web-page:

      Johan Rajam?ki is severel times Formel GM/Lotus champion and
Interseriewinner. He is now driving in Boss-serien, a worldwide serie which
are driven in Formula 1 cars at least 3 years old.

      a.. 1992, Interserie, Reynard-Judd

      a.. 1993, Interserie, Lola Ford

      a.. CHAMPION, 1994, Interserie, Footwork Judda FA 12

      a.. 1995, Interserie, Footwork Judd FA 12 och Footwork Judd FA 13

      a.. CHAMPION, 1996, BOSS championship, Footwork Judd FA 13

      a.. Second place, 1997, BOSS championship, Footwork Arrows FA 13 -92

      a.. CHAMPION, 1998, Super Sport championship (grupp C), Tiga C2

I hope this answer your question, and that you can understand my "homemade"
English, othervice you are welcome to ask again.

Cheers.
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Yes of course, I will try to answer the best I can.

The total travel is about 30-40 mm I think. It is a little difficult to
guess exactly, because you can't see the pedal at any time, not even when
you climb into the car!

This F1 has a lot of HP and no Tracktion control. With that in mind, a very
small amount of throttle in a low gear would send the car off the track in a
splitsecond. A F1 drive like it is on a railroad, but if / when it loose
grip, if you are not a M. Schumacher or a J. Villinueve you won't catch it
again before the car is off the track, we was told. The evening before the
race, they showed us a video and some pictures from earlier experiences with
other people that forgot one or more of the simple rules. 8 minor crashes,
and a big heavy one, expencive as hell. This big crash actually moved the
betonbarrier between the start-finish and the pitlane about 1 inch, and the
barrier is still in this place to remind us about it. This crash was due to
2 broken rules. Firsk he forgot to let all four wheel point strait ahead
before putting the throttle to the floor, and secondly he was in second
gear. From you hear the engine starts building rev up as he push the
throttle and until both rearwheels and almost the entire engine is ripped
out of the car, there (if the video shows the correct time) is passed about
1? second! As we are not a MS or a MH we only took The Pedal to The Metal
when all 4 wheels was in the correct direction, and in third gear, you could
feel little wheelspin, not much, but it was there. The car is so stable,
that it is not dangerous as long as we did not try to move the wheel.

That's a good one! I think if this was on lap 5-6-7-or 8 I might have tried
to turn, and possible with succes, but again if this was at lap 5-6-7 or 8 I
would have known the brakes much better, and therefore not have been in this
situation in the first place. To block the frontwheel with the brake you
need to push the pedal with 80 kilos!! And not as I did push girlish and
then harder and harder. It was my mistake not "jumping" on the brake at
once. Of course you should NOT lock the wheels, but the car can brake a lot
more that I thought, but it needs a heavy food on the pedal to do it (no
powerbrakes :o) ). Actually these brakes (colfiber brakes) was the most
impressive of the driving, I think.
The case is it was my mistake "too little" but I'm not sure it was too late,
just to soft braking.
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Oh, that's the English word. Yes, especially in the 180 and in the 200
(the merry-goround turn) there is a difference. In the 200 turn, I could
drive 110 kph in my Toyota Carina E in real life, and about 150 kph in a
Ford Mondeo in the game. I think this is real enough, as a STTC Mondeo is
more a racecar than my Toyota, but it does look real because of this
"missing" camber.
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Thanks a lot!

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Rafe Mc

So 12% to 15% maximum... that's pretty impressive.

My mistake... I could easily see how one could get oneself into trouble in
an F1 car and how certain things must be limited as you basically have just
a few laps to learn how to drive one, but I couldn't see how using 3rd gear
would improve matters. However, I was thinking from the point of view of an
actual F1 engine's characteristics, not the de-tuned (if 550hp qualifies as
de-tuned... lol ;-)), 9600rpm / smoother power delivery version you were
using. If the engine doesn't heap on a shitload of power starting from a
certain rev range, but instead "pulls" progressively it does make sense to
use a higher gear.

Interesting to note the "inconsequential" wheelspin behaviour in F1RC could
actually be quite accurate.

Thought so. I would imagine the stopping power is quite impressive.

Anyway, thanks for answering my questions. Myself and all of RAS envies you.

Jan.
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Acceleration is on steriods, but they handle very badly. Not fun to drive,
IMO.

I see what you mean, but from what I've seen on TV, the game captures the
"feel" of the tracks pretty well, again: IMO.

Jan.
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 Hehe, you got a point here :o) Yes, we where all much bigger persons than a
"real" F1 driver. I for myself is 1,79 Meter tall, and weight about 88 kilo.
Try to comparing this to the modern F1 drivers! I know, that G.Berger and
(my king!) Nigel Mansell is bigger than me, but already at this time when
they were on top, they were too big for the cars.
This car has been modified a little to fit larger people, but if you are
over 1.88 it is almost impossible to fit in the F1. I use size 8.5 (UK
mesure) in shoes, which is also near the limit, a 9.5 or 10 and you can't
have your feet in the correct position in the car.

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That's right. Even the trees along the track looks like in real. The
buildings, the pitlane, the pitentry, it all looks very much like the real
thing. One importent thing is missing though. When you come out of the 180
turn to the long straight, there is a sever (!!!) almost right in the
ideal-line (The straight is in fact a landing place for airplanes), that
would have bbed awesome to have this in the game too :o)

I was there racing bikes in 1999.  the most fun track I've ever been to.

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totally balls-out track.  I love it. :)

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