without fouling things up ;) This way Im not stupid enough to think,
"Just take your time Scott, you will get competitive at this track with
practice!" LOL
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It took me months of on & off practicing at the place to get to the point
that I knew which corner was coming up next. And when you get to that point,
you can focus on trying to go just a bit quicker each time around. But first
things first......
Start taking laps at the place, one after another, over & over, and think of
it like you're driving a real car to work, or to the store, on an old
country road. Just like in real life, you may not memorize every single
corner, but you'll find that after only a few repetitions, you'll start to
recognize familiar sections. And that will only improve with time. Pretty
soon, you'll not only think, "Ok, here comes that section with the bank on
the left, and I'm gonna catch a bit of air here", but you'll be thinking,
"Right after this section, I remember there being two quick rights, one
right after another". If you allow yourself the time & dedication, you'll
find yourself learning the entire track in this manner.
A few more thoughts......
I found that printing off a nice size map of the place with all proper names
of the turns was quite helpful. I kept it on my desk beside me, and would
revert back to it from time to time. "Let's see.... here's the spot where I
keep going off...maybe I need to just take that section slower...".
Contrary to a prior post, I found that downloading Greger Huttu's amazing
replay helped me tremendously. Lord knows I'm nowhere close to his time, but
watching his lap several times repeatedly will give you new inspiration as
to just how deep most corners can be taken, and how quickly certain sections
can be gone through. I'm not suggesting you try to go as fast as him by no
means, but if anything can help you shave off a few seconds off of your own
times, Huttu's replays can sure help.
Stop trying to go fast at the place. If there was ever a place where 'slower
is faster' applied, it's gotta be this place. The faster you go, the more
apt you are to wreck. And you'll never be fast if you're average lap has you
going off course a few times each lap. The first step to doing a good lap,
is to do a lap without going off course and hitting something.
Don't give up at this place. It's a damn tough track, but the satisfaction
of turning a good lap at the Ring is incredibly more gratifying than turning
a good lap at any other track. I personally think that the Nurburgring is by
far the greatest racing circuit ever simulated in a racing sim. To think
that Papyrus took the time and effort to make it as historically accurate as
it is, is awe-inspiring. If you want to see just how accurate to it's
real-life counterpart it truly is, then download some of the live footage
taken at the real circuit (still driveable in Germany today), and compare
for yourself. It's phenomenal.
Can ya tell that I love the track? (chuckle)
Hope some of this babbling helps..... Have fun,
Burke Wells
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Before you buy.
Good luck
Larry
> Well, after a long hiatus I got back on GPL and got my Spa time down to
> 3:30 in the Brabham. Now I think I should try another track and get
> down to around 5% of a decent time. This, along with the new GPL
> rankings has taken me to Deutschland and the Nurburgring. Yikes!!!!
> This is tough. Most of the corners are blind so you can't see the apex
> until after the brake point. Is it possible to memorize this course?
> Anyway, I'm down to 9:45 but I still haven't completed a lap without an
> incident. I slow down expecting danger which doesn't materialize and I
> speed up out of a corner to end up too hot coming into a blind
> switchback. I'm thinking a sub 9:00 lap can't be that impossible and
> will shave a nice chunk of my ranking (might keep me out of the bottom
> 5). Plus, I think that if I can learn to drive the Ring, I'll really
> know how to handle the Brabham in all situations. Any help with this
> monster would be appreciated.
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Jan.
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I can do 3:21's there in a Brabham.
Break the track into large chunks instead of single turns. Learn to
recognize the landmarks leading up to difficult sections. I'm doing 8:33
in a Brabham there - not the fastest, but damn respectable.
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Get my program "Ringtrainer" from this link:
http://www.joachimblum.de/ringtrainer.htm
What the program does is to simply change the position of your car as it is deployed onto the track. This position is defined within the "track.ini"-file. Ringtrainer now lets you chose between 11 different positions along the Nurburgring, each at the beginning of a particular section of the track. The main advatage of this is, that you can now drive through this sections multiple times in series without having to complete a whole lap inbetween. By this you can remember tricky corners faster.
Because it's written in German, I will give some installation instructions right here:
1. Download the file called "Ringtrainer.zip"
3. Download the file called "Ringtrainer_Audioupdate.zip"
2. If you don't have the VisualBasic Runtime Modules 6.00, you must also download the file "vbrun600.exe" and execute it.
4. Extract the two Ringtrainer-zips into a single folder.
5. Make a backup of your original "track.ini"-file that is in the "\tracks\nurburg"-folder of your GPL-installation.
6. Copy the "track.ini"-file of the Ringtrainer-folder into the "\tracks\nurburg"-folder.
7. Ready to rumble ;). Fire up Ringtrainer by double-clicking the exe-file.
8. Now you can choose a particular section from the dropdown-list and the program will show you the part of the track redlined in a trackmap and the deploy-point of the car via a little sceenshot.
9. You now have two possibilities to go on:
Either you start GPL normally and can start driving from that deploy-point over and over again.
Or you check the option "F4 als Hotkey aktivieren" and launch GPL via the "Start GPL"-Button. This will enable the hotkey-feature of Ringtrainer. This feature enables the F4-key as hotkey. Every time you press F4 during playing GPL, Ringtrainer moves you one point forward on the track and gives the actual positioning via voice-output so you don't have to quit GPL to choose another part of the track for training - it can be done while in GPL. Unfortunately this requires some computing-power so I left it optional for those who don't have the big PIII or Athlon under their desk ;).
OK, try the program. If you have questions or problems, you can reach me by the mail-address given on the Ringtrainer-page.
If there is further interest in this program, I'll maybe make an English version.
Sorry for my bad English btw.
Regards
Crash
<snip stuff about interesting program>
Is that some sort of joke? The English in your e-mail is better than many
contributors to r.a.s. who claim it as their first language.
Tony Whitley
Ein, Zwei, Drei, errm, knowledge of German exhausted.
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> >Hi!
> <snip stuff about interesting program>
> >Sorry for my bad English btw.
> Is that some sort of joke? The English in your e-mail is better than many
> contributors to r.a.s. who claim it as their first language.
> Tony Whitley
> Ein, Zwei, Drei, errm, knowledge of German exhausted.
No, no. Sudkehre, Nordkehre, Hatzenbach, Hocheichen,
Quiddelbacher Hohe, and so on... there's plenty of German you
know, Tony ;)
Seriously. That Ringtrainer must be a wonderful tool. I still
know the first half of the Ring much better than the rest from
giving up after half a lap so many times! I'll try it even
though I don't really need it any more (not that my 8:20 Ferrari
laps can't do with improving).
-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.
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