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GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

Andre Warrin

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Andre Warrin » Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Very handy util, thanks!

Andre

On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:12:06 +0200, "Joachim Blum"


>Hi!
>Regards
>Crash

hanse..

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by hanse.. » Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hi. Thanks for creating this cool utility. It worked for me but was
very very slow (slide show). I have a pretty fast computer p3-733
geforce 192 ram so I figured the sound would be ok. I'll reinstall
without the sound files but I wonder if it is my vb runtimes slowing
me down?

On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:12:06 +0200, "Joachim Blum"


>Hi!

>Get my program "Ringtrainer" from this link:
>http://www.joachimblum.de/ringtrainer.htm

Joachim Blu

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Joachim Blu » Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Hi!

Hmm, I have an Athlon 600 with 128 mb ram and V3-3000 and it works perfectly for me - no hit in the framerates at all. Maybe it's your runtimes? Did you download the latest ones (v6.00) from the Ringtrainer-page?

Regards
Crash

Peter Ive

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Peter Ive » Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:00:00


writes
<snip>

If you don't want to spend too long at any one time on the ring then a
good way to learn is to set the car to 2 laps and go and drive it -
making sure damage is off and don't worry about the number of spins.
Should take less than 20 minutes.  Do this at the beginning of each GPL
session before going on to whatever else you had planned for GPL.  This
way you're not getting overly frustrated with the track as you are
taking it in small chunks, can come back to it refreshed next time
around and you'll soon start to remember the layout.

Also, don't get discouraged if you hit an impass for a while and you
don't think you can improve.  Every time I've thought 'that's it,
there's no way I'm going to get any better at this track, I've reached
my limit.'  It just hasn't been the case.  When I got down to 8:30 I
thought I was really pushing the car to its extremes and yet now I'm
down to 8:09 and thinking the same thing.  There really is so much scope
you'll look back amazed and wonder how you could ever have been that
slow.  Getting under 9 minutes seems like an impossible target at first,
but believe me, once you know this track like the back of your hand you
can do sub 9 minutes and it will feel like you're not even pushing.

Good luck with your exploits. :)

--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Keith Daniel

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Keith Daniel » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hi Joachim,

Excellent utility.  Nurburgring is now more of a pleasure than a chore  :)

    -Keith


> Hi!

> Get my program "Ringtrainer" from this link:
> http://www.joachimblum.de/ringtrainer.htm
> What the program does is to simply change the position of your car as it is deployed onto the track. This position is defined within the "track.ini"-file. Ringtrainer now lets you chose between 11 different positions along the Nurburgring, each at the beginning of a particular section of the track. The main advatage of this is, that you can now drive through this sections multiple times in series without having to complete a whole lap inbetween. By this you can remember tricky corners faster.
> Because it's written in German, I will give some installation instructions right here:
> 1. Download the file called "Ringtrainer.zip"
> 3. Download the file called "Ringtrainer_Audioupdate.zip"
> 2. If you don't have the VisualBasic Runtime Modules 6.00, you must also download the file "vbrun600.exe" and execute it.
> 4. Extract the two Ringtrainer-zips into a single folder.
> 5. Make a backup of your original "track.ini"-file that is in the "\tracks\nurburg"-folder of your GPL-installation.
> 6. Copy the "track.ini"-file of the Ringtrainer-folder into the "\tracks\nurburg"-folder.
> 7. Ready to rumble ;). Fire up Ringtrainer by double-clicking the exe-file.
> 8. Now you can choose a particular section from the dropdown-list and the program will show you the part of the track redlined in a trackmap and the deploy-point of the car via a little sceenshot.
> 9. You now have two possibilities to go on:
> Either you start GPL normally and can start driving from that deploy-point over and over again.
> Or you check the option "F4 als Hotkey aktivieren" and launch GPL via the "Start GPL"-Button. This will enable the hotkey-feature of Ringtrainer. This feature enables the F4-key as hotkey. Every time you press F4 during playing GPL, Ringtrainer moves you one point forward on the track and gives the actual positioning via voice-output so you don't have to quit GPL to choose another part of the track for training - it can be done while in GPL. Unfortunately this requires some computing-power so I left it optional for those who don't have the big PIII or Athlon under their desk ;).
> OK, try the program. If you have questions or problems, you can reach me by the mail-address given on the Ringtrainer-page.
> If there is further interest in this program, I'll maybe make an English version.
> Sorry for my bad English btw.

> Regards
> Crash

J

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by J » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Enough for ordering beer at the Oktoberfest ;-)



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Tim Vanhe

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Tim Vanhe » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Me too. down to 17fps on myC566, 32mb TNT2



> Hi. Thanks for creating this cool utility. It worked for me but was
> very very slow (slide show). I have a pretty fast computer p3-733
> geforce 192 ram so I figured the sound would be ok. I'll reinstall
> without the sound files but I wonder if it is my vb runtimes slowing
> me down?

> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:12:06 +0200, "Joachim Blum"

> >Hi!

> >Get my program "Ringtrainer" from this link:
> >http://www.joachimblum.de/ringtrainer.htm

Joachim Blu

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Joachim Blu » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Hi!

Then it seems to be a problem only for users of the opengl-patch. Does the frameratehit occur only if you chose the hotkey-option or every time you run Ringtrainer in the background (i. e. not launch GPL with the button but leave Ringtariner running)?

Regards
Crash

Tim Vanhe

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Tim Vanhe » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I just tried it again.
I started from the utility without the hotkey option. No problem at all.
I exited gpl and enabled the hotkey. Started gpl from within ringtrainer.
Very choppy.
Exit gpl, let ringtrainer running, disabled the hotkey, restart gpl: same
choppy thing.
Exit gpl, exit ringtrainer, restart ringtr. without the hotkey, start gpl
from within ringtr.: no problemo.
It has something to do with that hotkey IMO.





Hi!

Then it seems to be a problem only for users of the opengl-patch. Does the
frameratehit occur only if you chose the hotkey-option or every time you run
Ringtrainer in the background (i. e. not launch GPL with the button but
leave Ringtariner running)?

Regards
Crash

themightyp..

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by themightyp.. » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the insight and motivation. I need it :-)

Christian Hansen




> writes
> <snip>
> > I'm thinking a sub 9:00 lap can't be that impossible and
> >will shave a nice chunk of my ranking (might keep me out of the
bottom
> >5). Plus, I think that if I can learn to drive the Ring, I'll really
> >know how to handle the Brabham in all situations.  Any help with this
> >monster would be appreciated.

> If you don't want to spend too long at any one time on the ring then a
> good way to learn is to set the car to 2 laps and go and drive it -
> making sure damage is off and don't worry about the number of spins.
> Should take less than 20 minutes.  Do this at the beginning of each
GPL
> session before going on to whatever else you had planned for GPL.
This
> way you're not getting overly frustrated with the track as you are
> taking it in small chunks, can come back to it refreshed next time
> around and you'll soon start to remember the layout.

> Also, don't get discouraged if you hit an impass for a while and you
> don't think you can improve.  Every time I've thought 'that's it,
> there's no way I'm going to get any better at this track, I've reached
> my limit.'  It just hasn't been the case.  When I got down to 8:30 I
> thought I was really pushing the car to its extremes and yet now I'm
> down to 8:09 and thinking the same thing.  There really is so much
scope
> you'll look back amazed and wonder how you could ever have been that
> slow.  Getting under 9 minutes seems like an impossible target at
first,
> but believe me, once you know this track like the back of your hand
you
> can do sub 9 minutes and it will feel like you're not even pushing.

> Good luck with your exploits. :)

> --
> Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

> No person's opinions can be said to be
> more correct than another's, because each is
> the sole judge of his or her own experience.

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Joachim Blu

GPL:Anybody got any tips for taming the Nurburgring

by Joachim Blu » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Hi Tim!

Ok, thanks for that information. Fact is, that on my system (Athlon600, V3-3000) there is no hit in the frame-rate at all. So, IMHO, it has to do with the opengl-driver, which is still beta and therefore needs more computing-power. Btw: Once you have enabled the hotkey, it is active until you exit Ringtrainer. Unchecking the option will _not_ deactivate it. I will address this in the next version. And I will also try to code a new hotkey-routine which will be useful for the non-glide-drivers among us ;).
But all this I cannot do until end of next week because I've got a lot of other things to work on. So be patient, the patch will come soon, but you have to wait a little, ok?
I'll announce here at r.a.s. when it's available.

So far for now.
Thanks for your coop!!

Regards
Crash


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