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by **Gary Stephenso** » Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:10:00

> >Also, I'd like to put in my vote for Daytona/Pocono and fast setups if
> >we go fixed. I realized the other night I had never driven an easy
> >setup before and I kept steering the car into the wall exiting the
> >turns because I kept wanting to countersteer. =)

> Yeah, I hadn't realized that it was locked on the easy setups until I read the
> chat logs the next day. I'm gonna be in trouble if we use the fast setup - the
> pull to the left screws me up. *Maybe* I can get enough practice in to get at
> least USED to it...

> Eldred

That explains it! I logged into the Daytona server and ran some practice
laps tonight. YIKES! I'm not used to the car pulling towards the outside
wall...I thought I was at Darlington!

Gary

by **Gary Stephenso** » Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:16:46

> >Well...the other option would be to run with open setups, but that
> >would be less likely to produce a close IROC-like race...

> Agreed.

> >But yeah, man. Don't even waste your time with the easy/intermediate
> >setups once you've gotten to the point where you can keep your car on
> >the track. If you want to be fast, you've got to deal with the pull.
> >=(

> Currently, I'm zigzagging down the straights. I canNOT run in a pack if I'm
> doing this. You guys with FF wheels apparently have it a bit easier since
> you're not fighting a centering force. This is gonna be TOUGH...

> Eldred

Personally, I found it extremely hard to keep the car in line going down
the straights when I ran some laps on your Daytona server tonight,
especially down the front straight. With the fast setups, I'm stable on
the straights, but have a hard time holding my line through the turns.
Weird, eh?

Gary

by **Gary Stephenso** » Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:23:51

> >> Who was the other driver? I wonder what's going on here... :(

> >I don't know who he was. He wasn't from r.a.s. I'm sure.

> He *had* to be - the server was passworded, remember?

> >> BTW, did you guys decide on the track(s) to run Sunday yet? I've only
> >turned
> >> laps at a couple - I'd hate to***up the racing for everyone else
> >because I
> >> couldn't keep the thing between the walls...

> >Daytona is one. We should figure out what the second one will be right away
> >so we know what to practice.

> How about Pocono?<g>

Ohhh...I love Pocono! At least in N4 I love Pocono. I loved Las Vegas in
N4 too, but hate it in NR2002. I better run some laps and see if the
same thing happens.

Gary

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:10:27

CRAP! N2002 would be released in Holland today, but it's delayed
untill coming Tuesday.. so no N2002 race for me Sunday :-/

Andre

by **B Farme** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:10:41

John, just going by my own experience, I think you are right about the
lurkers.

Been a "lurker" since late '97 (well, posted maybe 5-6 times since then),
but felt the need to post here 'cause I would rather the race would stay
PW'd (my brief foray on Sierra's servers since getting N2002 haven't been
too pleasant)

Was known on TEN as "RedFarmer", & was in a couple of leagues, CFRL & OSCAR.
Then TEN died, & I changed jobs & didn't have as much free time so kinda
drifted away from simracing, but still lurked around here at times. I
bought N3, but it (multiplayer without TEN & NROS) just wasn't fun anymore.
GPL & VROC was fun, but I didn't have the time for the steep learning curve
needed to master GPL. I tried the demo of N4 early on, & agreed with some
here that it was a bit too "skittish" for close online racing without that
dreaded "steep learning curve", & for the first time I did not buy a Papy
product. Read about the N2002 demo here, tried it, & was immediately
hooked... again.

Didn't mean to get so long winded, just wanted to let you all know that if
lurkers are welcome, I'll be there.

Brian

PS.... CART!!!!!!!!!!!

> How can one be sure that he wasn't from ras? Think it's safe to say,
the
> lurkers FAR outweigh the posters.

> -John

> ... :(

> > I don't know who he was. He wasn't from r.a.s. I'm sure.

> > > BTW, did you guys decide on the track(s) to run Sunday yet? I've only
> > turned
> > > laps at a couple - I'd hate to***up the racing for everyone else
> > because I
> > > couldn't keep the thing between the walls...

> > Daytona is one. We should figure out what the second one will be right
> away
> > so we know what to practice.

> > I was also wondering about the damage setting. Would moderate damage be
a
> > good idea? Since this is a sort of 'special' event, it would be a shame
if
> > some drivers were eliminated (especially early on) in a wreck through no
> > fault of their own. Also, if a number of cars get body damage, is the
> frame
> > rate slow down effect going to kick in and ruin the race? A moderate
> damage
> > setting might eliminate both problems but still force people to drive
> > realistically.

> > Do we even consider adding AI cars if the turn out isn't high enough?
Just
> a
> > thought.

> > David G Fisher

> > > Eldred
> > > --
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> > > Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> > > GPLRank - under construction...

> > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> > you
> > > with experience...
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by **Eldre** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:49:27

>CRAP! N2002 would be released in Holland today, but it's delayed
>untill coming Tuesday.. so no N2002 race for me Sunday :-/

S'ok, Andre - maybe I'll run it again NEXT week...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:49:27

writes:

Yes, lurkers are welcome. I *think* the server is passworded correctly now -
"ras"

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:49:27

writes:

I ran some laps last night with DGF and Fester at Pocono. I discovered that
when I hit the brakes for the corner, the car slews to the right. I kept
hitting the wall for a few laps. It got better when the tires warmed up, but
it's HELL on cold tires...

Eldred
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by **Uncle Feste** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:59:08

> writes:

>>Didn't mean to get so long winded, just wanted to let you all know that if
>>lurkers are welcome, I'll be there.

> Yes, lurkers are welcome. I *think* the server is passworded correctly now -
> "ras"

Just did a quick check- it's not passworded. You know what... I wonder
if an Open server can *be* passworded?

--

Fester

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the ***, just as it narrows the
mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
*** boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
have done. And I am Caesar." -- Julius Caesar

by **David G Fishe** » Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:22:03

> > I cancelled that server rental because Eldred said he'd host the race.
He
> > set up the server last night so we could test it out.

> Cool. Glad I found out, I would have been looking for a race that
> wasn't there. Or was that in the Master Gameplan? :-P

No, I want as many people as possible to see my win. :-)

David G Fisher

by **Eldre** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:26:11

writes:

I did a bit more reading of text files...I don't think it CAN be... A
dedicated server can be. Well, it might be okay for an Open server...

Eldred
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by **John Simmon** » Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:58:55

> writes:

> >Just did a quick check- it's not passworded. You know what... I wonder
> >if an Open server can *be* passworded?

> I did a bit more reading of text files...I don't think it CAN be... A
> dedicated server can be. Well, it might be okay for an Open server...

> Eldred

Hey Eldred, are you gonna be running any weekend 100% races on your
server like you did for GPL?

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by **Eldre** » Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:53:37

>Hey Eldred, are you gonna be running any weekend 100% races on your
>server like you did for GPL?

If there's a 'market' for it, maybe...<g>

Eldred
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by **jason moy** » Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:56:39

> I did a bit more reading of text files...I don't think it CAN be... A
> dedicated server can be. Well, it might be okay for an Open server...

I'm not sure I understand why you would run a password-protected open
server when you could just set the entry password and boss password to
the same thing?

Jason

by **Eldre** » Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:50:27

>> I did a bit more reading of text files...I don't think it CAN be... A
>> dedicated server can be. Well, it might be okay for an Open server...

>I'm not sure I understand why you would run a password-protected open
>server when you could just set the entry password and boss password to
>the same thing?

Because the server is remote, and there was no way to have it keep running, but
be available to ras... I hadn't tried hacking the .ini files yet.

Eldred
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