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by **Eldre** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:21:10

>jeez guys.....you dont win the race at turn 1.....you have to be in it
>to win it. The problem is that vroc drivers have wildly different
>perceptions of what is happening in front of them due to lag/latency
>etc.
>It would take the co-operation of all drivers in a race to "take it
>easy" thru T1 to get a full race going....I dont think I can remember
>being in a full race at the end of lap 1 yet!

Our GP Silverstone race went for at a few laps with 19 cars without a big
wreck. The Zandy race was FAIRLY good for a couple...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:21:15

>You should be annoyed at yourself, however. Even without crashing, Carlo
>could have been caught between the horns of an awful dilemma: Relieve
>himself in or away from the chair? Something you should always keep in
>mind in a 2 hour race.

Like I said before, My concentration was gone. I was literally spinning or
going off track every other lap. It was NOT pretty... :(
Although I'm sure the crowd on the front stretch enjoyed my 'end-around' at 160
MPH<g> It was that lurid moment that told me I'd never be able to finish the
race...
Not enough sleep the night before - my fault.

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:21:13

>Jens H. Kruuse wrote...

>> <snip>
>> Now, now. Don't be ashamed of yourself. <Pats Eldred on the
>> back.> You were hit at the start and went on to complete
>> half the race instead of quitting or crashing in frustration.

>Yeah, he was doing pretty well. Too bad about 70% of the drivers present on
>the day werent up to the challenge. I think the field was reduced to 5 or 6
>within the distance of an int short... pitifull really. Or maybe most of
>them hadn't payed attention and only found out it was a GP when they tried
>to hit shift-r? BTW, Eldred: what was waving me through all about in the
>beginning of the race? Surely, you're not *that* paranoid about getting hit
>and give up without even trying to defend your line?

At that point(and being hit at the start), yes I was. I didn't realize it was
you until I saw the pit board the next lap. All I knew was that some fast car
barrelling up on me. Next time, it won't be so easy, my friend...<g>

Eldred
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by **Jan Verschuere** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:53:10

You really should pay more attention the psychology of racing Eldred. At the
top level (and GP's are the highest level in GPL) it's a thinking man's
game.

<thoughts during the race>
My car handles pretty well on a full tank. I also know from experience the
Ferrari can be tricky on a full tank. We are of similar skill level, so if I
allow for the balance to shift in favour of the Ferrari (fuel is being
burned off all the time) getting the position will be very hard. I have to
get ahead of you *now*. Ok, so I need a plan... what does my car do better
than yours? -Brakes, it's more stable under braking. Is this a good
plan? -Yes, it is. Since we're on your server, I can be pretty sure of where
you are. Ok, so I take a risk under braking for T1. -Whoah!! Did that ever
work! Right on the gearbox and still able to take my usual apex. Ok, full
concentration... stay there and nail him into Clubhouse.

Huh? -he's pulling over... heh, scared him. I'll have that position anyway,
thanks.
<end thoughts during the race>

Obviously this train of thought didn't include the unforced errors I was
about to make and the engine blow-up later on, but when I race I try to keep
my brain working. Either on working out ways of improving my chances of
taking the next position up (when I'm chasing) or ways of building
safeguards into my driving without losing a position (when I'm defending).
Thinking on your feet and making good calls ultimately decides on winning or
losing. It pays to practise this aspect as well as the turns themselves.

Speaking of turns... read those Keith Code books I told you about yet?

I'm not impressed. If you allow past accidents to weigh on your dealings
with the next challenger, the outcome is a forgone conclusion. <vbg>

Jan.
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by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:40:29

At the top level (and GP's are the highest level in GPL) it's a thinking
man's
the whistle blows...the conductor shouts...the wheels go round and round.
the car goes round and round. toot toot....say lookee there, I never
noticed that sign before....

and thats about it...
dave henrie

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:47:00

> They did? Cool!

I think they did anyway <g>. There's a standard disco message and a xx
manually disco'd message.

Andrew McP

by **Jan Verschuere** » Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:03:29

A completely empty mind might work as well... better than have it drift to
the items on the grocery list or how tall the lawn has grown anyway. ;-)

Jan.
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by **Jens H. Kruus** » Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:40:38

> <thoughts during the race>
> My car handles pretty well on a full tank. I also know from experience the
> Ferrari can be tricky on a full tank. We are of similar skill level, so if I
> allow for the balance to shift in favour of the Ferrari (fuel is being
> burned off all the time) getting the position will be very hard. I have to
> get ahead of you *now*. Ok, so I need a plan... what does my car do better
> than yours? -Brakes, it's more stable under braking. Is this a good
> plan? -Yes, it is. Since we're on your server, I can be pretty sure of where
> you are. Ok, so I take a risk under braking for T1. -Whoah!! Did that ever
> work! Right on the gearbox and still able to take my usual apex. Ok, full
> concentration... stay there and nail him into Clubhouse.

> Huh? -he's pulling over... heh, scared him. I'll have that position anyway,
> thanks.
> <end thoughts during the race>

I have improved my racing (and even driving) tremendously recently
mainly by thinking better. I need to get even better. Much better. I
didn't think of this as a weakness before it was pointed out to me but
it obviously is.

I noticed that your train-of-though didn't include a single negative
thought - that's what is so important. Always think about something
"good" you're going to do. Brake right, turn right, catch the ***, etc.

During the Zandy GP I started having negative thoughts at the time when
Jan was 25 secs with 20 laps to go. "Brake early, or you will spin."
"Careful here or you won't be able to make the turn." Whammo! 20 secs
down the drain when I spun!

How true.

Jens

by **Rob Adam** » Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:00:51

I was in the middle of what felt like a really fast Silverstone lap and
started thinking "wow this feels fast - if I don't***up I'll probably
set a PB". Sure enough, I went wide on the last left before the front
straight and threw the lap away (:

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