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by **Bill Cranst** » Fri, 02 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Hi. I was reading over some of the advaned setup options in GP2 in
order to improve my times at Monza (still in the 1:28 range with no
help but braking) and noticed several references to bumpy circuits
requiring specific setup adjustments. Also, I noticed several
references to wet/oily track surfaces.

My question is, does GP2 model these conditions? I've only run on
Monza so far, and my impression is that this circuit is silky smooth -
are there circuits that you can tell are bumpy? And since GP2 doesn't
model weather (guess this Crammond fella isn't all he's cracked up to
be), are there conditions where parts of the circuit become wet/oily?
I havent yet noticed any oil leaks from accidents (with damage off,
these F1 cars are still pretty damn indestructible - makes stock cars
seem fragile in comparison).

Thanks,

Bill.

by **dickb** » Fri, 02 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Dont know about the oil and water but there are definately bumps. Set your ride
height real low and listen to the plank banging off the ground. Very noticeable
at Pacific and right before Tosa on Imola.

by **'John' Joao Sil** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>Hi. I was reading over some of the advaned setup options in GP2 in
>order to improve my times at Monza (still in the 1:28 range with no
>help but braking) and noticed several references to bumpy circuits
>requiring specific setup adjustments. Also, I noticed several
>references to wet/oily track surfaces.

>My question is, does GP2 model these conditions? I've only run on
>Monza so far, and my impression is that this circuit is silky smooth -
>are there circuits that you can tell are bumpy? And since GP2 doesn't
>model weather (guess this Crammond fella isn't all he's cracked up to
>be), are there conditions where parts of the circuit become wet/oily?
>I havent yet noticed any oil leaks from accidents (with damage off,
>these F1 cars are still pretty damn indestructible - makes stock cars
>seem fragile in comparison).

Drop your car ride height down a bit, you will find that the tracks really
are bumpy, even at Monza you will bottom out in certain areas of the long
straights as the high speeds make your rear wing push the car down with
down-force.

It really is amazing the nice details that are included in GP2, bumps on
the tracks is one of them.

Cheers.

--John
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Seattle, Washington USA.

by **Piers Samwell-Smit** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

I started playing with the telemetry last night. I had wondered what the
map was for. I discovered that when I zoom the X axis, the section of
track relating to the graph is highlighted. You *can* see where you
start to brake, where your car dives, and of course all the bumps being
absorbed by the suspension.

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by **Rob Sn** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

ii
Hi there
When I go into the pits in practice track mode - The engineers don't tell
me anything. I am running with no sound is that the reason.

Do I have to do anything special to get advise on my setup's

rob

by **Michael Peters** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

says...

> ii
> Hi there
> When I go into the pits in practice track mode - The engineers
don't tell
> me anything. I am running with no sound is that the reason.

> Do I have to do anything special to get advise on my setup's

> rob

> Those damn engineers. Every time I come into the pits and think I have
> a good lap time and set up, the damn engineers start pointing at their
> graphs and charts. Your not getting on the throttle early enough, you
> spun the tires in the chicane, your bottoming on the plank. ***,
> ***, ***.

He was kidding. He means HE was checking out the stats. Not the team.

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by **Kurt G Nun** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Those damn engineers. Every time I come into the pits and think I have
a good lap time and set up, the damn engineers start pointing at their
graphs and charts. Your not getting on the throttle early enough, you
spun the tires in the chicane, your bottoming on the plank. ***,
***, ***.
Seriously I can't believe how cool it is to have some real feed back on
what my setup is changing. I seem to be spending more time in the pits
than racing. I would have loved to have the kind of info GP2 provides
when I raced my go kart. With a lot of time in the pits and looking at
charts I dropped from 128's to low 1:11's at Pacific.

N2KARTN

by **Julian Lov** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

> Hi. I was reading over some of the advaned setup options in GP2 in
> order to improve my times at Monza (still in the 1:28 range with no
> help but braking) and noticed several references to bumpy circuits
> requiring specific setup adjustments. Also, I noticed several
> references to wet/oily track surfaces.

> My question is, does GP2 model these conditions? I've only run on
> Monza so far, and my impression is that this circuit is silky smooth -
> are there circuits that you can tell are bumpy? And since GP2 doesn't
> model weather (guess this Crammond fella isn't all he's cracked up to
> be), are there conditions where parts of the circuit become wet/oily?
> I havent yet noticed any oil leaks from accidents (with damage off,
> these F1 cars are still pretty damn indestructible - makes stock cars
> seem fragile in comparison).

Put some packer in and lower your ride height - you will find that Monza
is a pretty bumpy circuit when your on the bump ***s. Fiddle around a
bit until you are on the bump ***s along the straight (so you can
lower the ride height as much as possible), but use the suspension travel
graph to ensure you are coming off the ***s in the corners (to get
improved cornering control).

Julian
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University of Oxford

by **Julian Anderso** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

I have tried mailing Microprose/Spectrum-Holybyte or what ever they call
themselfs these days, over these lack of weather changes. Alas, all my
mails have fallen on deaf ears.... I guess they hoped it would slip by
unnoticed. They judged us wrong....

Bumps are all very nices, but dont match the realism of constant weather
changes.

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by **Isaac Wo** » Sat, 03 Aug 1996 04:00:00

|> Hi. I was reading over some of the advaned setup options in GP2 in
|> order to improve my times at Monza (still in the 1:28 range with no
|> help but braking)... [snipped referring to oily/bumpy tracks]
^^^^^^^
There you go. Turn off auto brakes and your times will improve. You can
usually brake much later than the computer would brake for you.

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by **Doug Reichl** » Sun, 04 Aug 1996 04:00:00

:>> Those damn engineers. Every time I come into the pits and think I
:>> have a good lap time and set up, the damn engineers start pointing at
:>> their graphs and charts. Your not getting on the throttle early
:>> enough, you spun the tires in the chicane, your bottoming on the
:>> plank. ***, ***, ***.

:> When I go into the pits in practice track mode - The engineers don't tell
:> me anything. I am running with no sound is that the reason.
:>
:> Do I have to do anything special to get advise on my setup's

Maybe you are in a European version. We in the US version get all kinds
of radio communication with the pits. Things like, "I'm coming in for 2
tires and some fuel" or "turn the fuel mixture to 5" or "Your wife was
good last night".

It only comes over if you use a SB16/AWE32 card.

by **Fraser Lev** » Sun, 04 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>:>> Those damn engineers. Every time I come into the pits and think I
>:>> have a good lap time and set up, the damn engineers start pointing at
>:>> their graphs and charts. Your not getting on the throttle early
>:>> enough, you spun the tires in the chicane, your bottoming on the
>:>> plank. ***, ***, ***.
>:> When I go into the pits in practice track mode - The engineers don't tell
>:> me anything. I am running with no sound is that the reason.
>:>
>:> Do I have to do anything special to get advise on my setup's
>Maybe you are in a European version. We in the US version get all kinds
>of radio communication with the pits. Things like, "I'm coming in for 2
>tires and some fuel" or "turn the fuel mixture to 5" or "Your wife was
>good last night".
>It only comes over if you use a SB16/AWE32 card.

You should try the Irish version, Not only do you get advice about
set-ups but Eddie Jordan pops round at 7pm and takes you to the pub
for 7 pints of guinness and some cheese and onion crisps. That's
detail for you... thanks Geoff!

by **Dave Bowe** » Sun, 04 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>And since GP2 doesn't
>model weather (guess this Crammond fella isn't all he's cracked up to
>be)

Come on... give the guy a break. The game is excellent for christ's
sake!

D. B.

by V1 » Mon, 05 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>Hi. I was reading over some of the advaned setup options in GP2 in
>order to improve my times at Monza (still in the 1:28 range with no
>help but braking) and noticed several references to bumpy circuits
>requiring specific setup adjustments. Also, I noticed several
>references to wet/oily track surfaces.
>My question is, does GP2 model these conditions? I've only run on
>Monza so far, and my impression is that this circuit is silky smooth -
>are there circuits that you can tell are bumpy?

You should try racing at Hockenheim at the first long straight just
before chicane 1 the car jumps quite a bit. And also in France at
Magny-cours just before Adelaide hairpin.

Cheers
Martin

by Yu » Mon, 05 Aug 1996 04:00:00

<snip>
you forgot to mention the card needs to be set on IRQ 34...

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