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GPL FF SETUP TIPS

gave

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by gave » Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Nice post, Joe.
  When I first fired mine up I hadn't loaded a profile at all so I was
disappointed with the lack of feel. Later on, after driving around in CPR with
it's profile loaded I loaded up GPL and boy what a difference it makes. I'll be
trying your tips! Thanks again!
Greg Avella
Gavel


> I picked up the MSFF (which I will compare to the LWFF I ordered and return
> the loser) because FF is the rage since GPL 1.1.  When I first fired up the
> wheel I left "force feedback" and "return to center" set to high in the
> sidewinder control panel and didn't change any core.ini settings.

(snip)
Joe Marque

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by Joe Marque » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I picked up the MSFF (which I will compare to the LWFF I ordered and return
the loser) because FF is the rage since GPL 1.1.  When I first fired up the
wheel I left "force feedback" and "return to center" set to high in the
sidewinder control panel and didn't change any core.ini settings.  I also
had the linear slider in GPL set in the middle.  Well to say I wasn't
impressed is a gross  understatement.  After ALL the hype I thought this
just can't be what you were all raving about.  The wheel was far too stiff
and the weight and inertia effects seemed slightly delayed (out of sync) and
more detrimental than useful to driving.  Discouraged, I decided to
experiment with the settings.  I turned off "return to center" in the
sidewinder control panel and INCREASED max torque in the core.ini to 275
which actually reduced the forces in the game (max_steering_torque =
275.000000).  This gave me the ideal blend of subtle yet useful FF, however,
the laggy response remained.  I thought the culprit might be the linear
slider.  I moved the linear slider completely toward linear to see if a
linear steering wheel would improve FF response.  WOW!  The FF felt perfect.
The FF effects were immediate, appropriate and AMAZING.

I could now feel almost every inch of the cars movement.  The weight, the
inertia and the grip were all relayed through this amazing FF process.  Now
you could see and FEEL the car swing left and right in perfect sync with
your input.  GPL+FF=Ultimate Immersion.  The tactile feedback of the wheel
is the perfect compliment to the "2D" visual and auditory data.  It is the
missing 3rd dimension and certainly is a far cry from the useless gimmick I
once thought of FF.  So if your experience of GPL FF isn't what you had
hoped, don't be discouraged.  Experiment with the settings, since this can
make a world of difference.

Now I can't wait for the FF***pit equipped with a hydraulic seat ;-).

--
Joe Marques

Chris Schlette

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by Chris Schlette » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Will have to try it, haven't noticed much in the way of lag, but hey any
little bit helps.  Thanks for the tip(s).


Stephen Barnet

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by Stephen Barnet » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>I picked up the MSFF (which I will compare to the LWFF I ordered and return
>the loser) because FF is the rage since GPL 1.1.  When I first fired up the

snip snip...

Totally agree Joe. The wheel and patch are great, but do need tuning. I also
set the torque to 275, and the linear slider full over. It made a big
difference. I have also turned off the MS 'return to centre', and set the FF
on 'low'. The sensations of understeer, oversteer, bumps in the road etc are
something else!
Steve

Chris Schlette

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by Chris Schlette » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Yup, use the latest Logitech 3.20 drivers and it has a checkbox to turn off
the centering force.
'John' Joao Sil

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by 'John' Joao Sil » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Yes it sure can (and should be turned off for best GPL feel)

Go into Control Panel->Game Controllers and go to the Logitech settings
then uncheck the box that says
"Enable Centering Springs in Force Feedback Games"

That should do it.

Seeyas on the track.

--John (Joao) Silva



John Burto

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by John Burto » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Thanx

Just dumped the drivers when I reinstalled the wheel <g>
--
John Burton
Splash 1 Internet Magazine
http://www.splash1.co.uk

Andre Warrin

GPL FF SETUP TIPS

by Andre Warrin » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00

yes. In the properties of the logitech wheel: Turn the 'return to
centre' option off.

Andre


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