rec.autos.simulators

> Hi all,

> Recently, I installed PDPI L4. I have TSW (50 ohm SPEC pots). No
jittering,
> spiking - it's rock solid, BUT it's not as smooth as TSW+SB Live. My
virtual
> wheel in GPL moves in discrete increments, not smoothly, very hard to
> control when you have setting to full linear. Specially hard to
control
> close to wheel neutral position. By the way, I calibrated TSW without
> problem and also I set dead zone to 0 using CTFJ!. Didn't help. It's
hard
> for me to believe that TSW+PDPI cannot better TSW+SB Live in
smoothness. So
> my questions are.

> 1. Is that matter of fine tuning in PDPI Default/FineTuneInfo
registry
> settings. Currently I have
> "FineTuneInfo"=hex:3b,00,00,00,3b,00,00,00,3b,00,00,00,3b,00,00,00
> (exported from my registry). Can anybody who have smooth respond with
> TSW(SPEC pots) and PDPI send me a FineTuneInfo settings?

> 2. Is there anything else I can do to solve my problem. Like special
> registry settings, magic calibration...

> Otherwise I'll be forced to go back to SB Live gameport which gives me
> little jittering but allow me smooth control with generic Papy driver
and
> steering set to full linear.

>  I really hope that I'm doing something wrong and PDPI is rock solid
and
> smooth, as so many people in this news group said it is.

> I'll highly appreciate any help or suggestion? Thank you in advance.

> Darko

> Thanks Asgeir,

> He sent me an e-mail, and I was just about to recommend the exact same
thing
> :)

> It's also worth noting that the TSWs set their pedal pots at "mid-range"
of
> the resistance position (position-range of the axis by default never
reaches
> 0 resistance value). It is always wise to manually adjust the pot posts to
> start from 0 resistance (all the way to lock on the one side - depending
on
> the position of the pot mounting) to reach a desired result. In fact...
> EVERYONE should make sure this is the case on all their pedal units (you'd
> be surprised what some of the settings are on some wheels).

> Cheers,

> Shumi

> P.S. Darko... the settings that Asgeir recommended should increase
> performance for you :) We would add it automatically in the drivers except
> that it would probably cause confusion for most since most use 100-250K
> Pots, and the 20 setting will not be desirable for them...

> > I am using 20K pots, and I definitely had to adjust the register of the
> PDPI
> > FineTune section.

> > First of all, make an folder in the FineTuneInfo section bearing the
same
> name
> > as your controller. Then make the keys in that folder required (have a
> look at
> > the keys in any other folder in the FineTuneInfo folder, copy name and
> content).
> > You now have a register setting that you can experiment with

> > Darko, 3B in the fine tune register is way too little sensitivity for 50
> k.

> > I am using 10 for my 20k pots! So, 20 could be a good value for 50k
pots.

> > If you are using 50k pots all around you should use these values:
> > "FineTuneInfo"=hex:20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00".
> You're only
> > using 3 axes, so the last of the four "20" isn't important...

> > You should obtain a range of 0 to 255 if you can. You just have to
adjust
> the
> > finetune register so that you get as big range as possible.

> > One thing... You have to restart your computer every time you change the
> > values... :-( Windows reads the register only when you start up windows.

> > If you don't get it to work, you can email me, because I have a lot of
> > experience in this. :-)

> > ---Asgeir---

> Thanks guys. I just change from 0x3b->0x20 in FineTuneInfo, and that made
> HUGE difference. It's just the best experience in GPL I ever have. Rock
> solid and smooth. This little tweak made wonder. Shumi you should put this
> info on PDPI site/documentation, or at least in Readme file. Now TSW+PDPI
> really look like ultimate combination for GPL, but just with a right
> FineTuneInfo settings. Once again, thank you very much for your response.

> Darko

> > Thanks Asgeir,

> > He sent me an e-mail, and I was just about to recommend the exact same
> thing
> > :)

> > It's also worth noting that the TSWs set their pedal pots at "mid-range"
> of
> > the resistance position (position-range of the axis by default never
> reaches
> > 0 resistance value). It is always wise to manually adjust the pot posts
to
> > start from 0 resistance (all the way to lock on the one side - depending
> on
> > the position of the pot mounting) to reach a desired result. In fact...
> > EVERYONE should make sure this is the case on all their pedal units
(you'd
> > be surprised what some of the settings are on some wheels).

> > Cheers,

> > Shumi

> > P.S. Darko... the settings that Asgeir recommended should increase
> > performance for you :) We would add it automatically in the drivers
except
> > that it would probably cause confusion for most since most use 100-250K
> > Pots, and the 20 setting will not be desirable for them...

> > > I am using 20K pots, and I definitely had to adjust the register of
the
> > PDPI
> > > FineTune section.

> > > First of all, make an folder in the FineTuneInfo section bearing the
> same
> > name
> > > as your controller. Then make the keys in that folder required (have a
> > look at
> > > the keys in any other folder in the FineTuneInfo folder, copy name and
> > content).
> > > You now have a register setting that you can experiment with

> > > Darko, 3B in the fine tune register is way too little sensitivity for
50
> > k.

> > > I am using 10 for my 20k pots! So, 20 could be a good value for 50k
> pots.

> > > If you are using 50k pots all around you should use these values:
> > > "FineTuneInfo"=hex:20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00".
> > You're only
> > > using 3 axes, so the last of the four "20" isn't important...

> > > You should obtain a range of 0 to 255 if you can. You just have to
> adjust
> > the
> > > finetune register so that you get as big range as possible.

> > > One thing... You have to restart your computer every time you change
the
> > > values... :-( Windows reads the register only when you start up
windows.

> > > If you don't get it to work, you can email me, because I have a lot of
> > > experience in this. :-)

> > > ---Asgeir---

> I have made note of the settings you gentlemen are experiencing favorable
> results with, and the new version of the drivers will include a readme.txt
> for uncommon pots (although they should be more commonly used). Keep your
> eyes peeled for our Win2K drivers coming soon :)

> 20K = 10
> 50K = 18

> Cheers,

> Shumi

> > Thanks guys. I just change from 0x3b->0x20 in FineTuneInfo, and that
made
> > HUGE difference. It's just the best experience in GPL I ever have. Rock
> > solid and smooth. This little tweak made wonder. Shumi you should put
this
> > info on PDPI site/documentation, or at least in Readme file. Now
TSW+PDPI
> > really look like ultimate combination for GPL, but just with a right
> > FineTuneInfo settings. Once again, thank you very much for your
response.

> > Darko

> > > Thanks Asgeir,

> > > He sent me an e-mail, and I was just about to recommend the exact same
> > thing
> > > :)

> > > It's also worth noting that the TSWs set their pedal pots at
"mid-range"
> > of
> > > the resistance position (position-range of the axis by default never
> > reaches
> > > 0 resistance value). It is always wise to manually adjust the pot
posts
> to
> > > start from 0 resistance (all the way to lock on the one side -
depending
> > on
> > > the position of the pot mounting) to reach a desired result. In
fact...
> > > EVERYONE should make sure this is the case on all their pedal units
> (you'd
> > > be surprised what some of the settings are on some wheels).

> > > Cheers,

> > > Shumi

> > > P.S. Darko... the settings that Asgeir recommended should increase
> > > performance for you :) We would add it automatically in the drivers
> except
> > > that it would probably cause confusion for most since most use
100-250K
> > > Pots, and the 20 setting will not be desirable for them...

> > > > I am using 20K pots, and I definitely had to adjust the register of
> the
> > > PDPI
> > > > FineTune section.

> > > > First of all, make an folder in the FineTuneInfo section bearing the
> > same
> > > name
> > > > as your controller. Then make the keys in that folder required (have
a
> > > look at
> > > > the keys in any other folder in the FineTuneInfo folder, copy name
and
> > > content).
> > > > You now have a register setting that you can experiment with

> > > > Darko, 3B in the fine tune register is way too little sensitivity
for
> 50
> > > k.

> > > > I am using 10 for my 20k pots! So, 20 could be a good value for 50k
> > pots.

> > > > If you are using 50k pots all around you should use these values:
> > > > "FineTuneInfo"=hex:20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00,20,00,00,00".
> > > You're only
> > > > using 3 axes, so the last of the four "20" isn't important...

> > > > You should obtain a range of 0 to 255 if you can. You just have to
> > adjust
> > > the
> > > > finetune register so that you get as big range as possible.

> > > > One thing... You have to restart your computer every time you change
> the
> > > > values... :-( Windows reads the register only when you start up
> windows.

> > > > If you don't get it to work, you can email me, because I have a lot
of
> > > > experience in this. :-)

> > > > ---Asgeir---

> Hi all,

> Recently, I installed PDPI L4. I have TSW (50 ohm SPEC pots). No
jittering,
> spiking - it's rock solid, BUT it's not as smooth as TSW+SB Live. My
virtual
> wheel in GPL moves in discrete increments, not smoothly, very hard to
> control when you have setting to full linear. Specially hard to control
> close to wheel neutral position. By the way, I calibrated TSW without
> problem and also I set dead zone to 0 using CTFJ!. Didn't help. It's hard
> for me to believe that TSW+PDPI cannot better TSW+SB Live in smoothness.
So
> my questions are.

> 1. Is that matter of fine tuning in PDPI Default/FineTuneInfo  registry
> settings. Currently I have
> "FineTuneInfo"=hex:3b,00,00,00,3b,00,00,00,3b,00,00,00,3b,00,00,00
> (exported from my registry). Can anybody who have smooth respond with
> TSW(SPEC pots) and PDPI send me a FineTuneInfo settings?

> 2. Is there anything else I can do to solve my problem. Like special
> registry settings, magic calibration...

> Otherwise I'll be forced to go back to SB Live gameport which gives me
> little jittering but allow me smooth control with generic Papy driver and
> steering set to full linear.

>  I really hope that I'm doing something wrong and PDPI is rock solid and
> smooth, as so many people in this news group said it is.

> I'll highly appreciate any help or suggestion? Thank you in advance.

> Darko

> Ok, I found that reg entry.  Now, a new question.  Is there a setting which
> would make
> a Thrustmaster NASCAR pro wheel smoother?  I have not been able to use the
> Papy
> joystick driver since I installed the PDPI L4, my inputs are way too clunky.
> The Dx driver
> does seem to work well enough, though.  But, I do remember the Papy driver
> beeing
> much more precise.
> TIA
> --
> Kenny L.
> kenny_l  AT pacbell DOT net

> I've owned a PDPI  L4 for a while, and have never seen this FineTuneInfo
> deal you're
> speaking of.  Where is that?  What did I miss?

> --
> Kenny L.
> kenny_l  AT pacbell DOT net

> Thanks Asgeir,

> He sent me an e-mail, and I was just about to recommend the exact same thing
> :)

> It's also worth noting that the TSWs set their pedal pots at "mid-range" of
> the resistance position (position-range of the axis by default never reaches
> 0 resistance value). It is always wise to manually adjust the pot posts to
> start from 0 resistance (all the way to lock on the one side - depending on
> the position of the pot mounting) to reach a desired result. In fact...
> EVERYONE should make sure this is the case on all their pedal units (you'd
> be surprised what some of the settings are on some wheels).

> Cheers,

> Shumi

> P.S. Darko... the settings that Asgeir recommended should increase
> performance for you :) We would add it automatically in the drivers except
> that it would probably cause confusion for most since most use 100-250K
> Pots, and the 20 setting will not be desirable for them...

> If your rig works ok, and the ranges count around 200, you don't have to
worry
> about anything. It is when you don't get a large range with your pots that
you
> need to tamper with the register.

> ---Asgeir---

> > I've owned a PDPI  L4 for a while, and have never seen this FineTuneInfo
> > deal you're
> > speaking of.  Where is that?  What did I miss?

> > --
> > Kenny L.
> > kenny_l  AT pacbell DOT net

> What do you mean with "ranges count around 200"? Give example settings for
> 50 ohm and 100 ohm pots to be in range of 200. I found that 18 (hex) is
> smooth for 50 ohm pots. Is that in the range?

> Darko

> > If your rig works ok, and the ranges count around 200, you don't have to
> worry
> > about anything. It is when you don't get a large range with your pots that
> you
> > need to tamper with the register.

> > ---Asgeir---

> > > I've owned a PDPI  L4 for a while, and have never seen this FineTuneInfo
> > > deal you're
> > > speaking of.  Where is that?  What did I miss?

> > > --
> > > Kenny L.
> > > kenny_l  AT pacbell DOT net