rec.autos.simulators

by **Marc Collin** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:40:38

I like the new sounds very much, but does anyone else find the engine sound
too quiet relative to the other sounds? I don't want the car next to me to
sound louder than my own engine and with my engine at 100%, I would
practically have to turn off the other sounds for it to be the ***
sound that it should be.

Marc

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by **Joachim Trens** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:02:53

Hi Marc,

I hope Papy doesn't use only those 4 global sliders for sound ratios in the
full version. They're clearly insufficient. However, since you can unpack
the sound.dat, there's nothing to prevent you from adjusting the sound level
directly within the wav files.

There are also ways to give these sounds more pressure, and I'm sure someone
will do that, too. I've done it to try them in N4, and I can say that the
sounds do have potential for some pretty good grumble :-)

Achim

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by **Sudesh Bhagwandi** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 01:02:21

hey I don't have any engine sounds whatsoever, just enviromental sounds....

sudesh

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by **Mick** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:25:58

Yea, I thought the same thing. Great sound, but just not loud enough.

> I like the new sounds very much, but does anyone else find the engine sound
> too quiet relative to the other sounds? I don't want the car next to me to
> sound louder than my own engine and with my engine at 100%, I would
> practically have to turn off the other sounds for it to be the ***
> sound that it should be.

> Marc

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by **Don Scurlo** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:43:31

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How do you unpack them? I tried dooDAT but it doesn't handle it. I would love
to get that engine sound into GPL.

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by **Eric Busc** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:44:50

Increase the value of the "RelativeVol_PlayerEngine" setting in the [Sound
Options] section of your PLAYER.INI.

- Eric

by **Morgan V. Woote** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 04:47:00

datx, available at The Pits, I think.

http://theuspits.bhmotorsports.com/files/makedatx.zip - 326kb

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> 99765.news.dfncis.de>:

> >I hope Papy doesn't use only those 4 global sliders for sound ratios in
the
> >full version. They're clearly insufficient. However, since you can unpack
> >the sound.dat, there's nothing to prevent you from adjusting the sound
level
> >directly within the wav files.

> How do you unpack them? I tried dooDAT but it doesn't handle it. I would
love
> to get that engine sound into GPL.

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by **The Other Larr** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 04:55:27

It's quiet because all of the low-end Bass components of the sound are
either not being played, or simply aren't there.

Man, I HOPE it's not because they simply are not there.

My sub sits idle in NR2002, while it rumbles like hell in N4.

It's not an acceptable trade-off, IMHO, if this turns out to be the case.
We need those low-frequency components of the sound for it to really be
right.

But, then again, this IS a demo :) Only Eric knows for sure :)

-Larry

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by **Tom Pabs** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:00:24

Marc...

Try turning off "3D Sound"....adjust the sliders anew.

TP

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by **Marc Collin** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:24:53

Very interesting...and Papy-like to have these fine adjustments. But why is
there almost a parallel set of adjustments to the menu ones? I would have
been happy to just be able to slide the slider a bit higher on the screen.
I don't see the point of limiting the engine sound so dramatically in the
.ini file as the default.

Thanks for this tip, though!

Marc

> Increase the value of the "RelativeVol_PlayerEngine" setting in the [Sound
> Options] section of your PLAYER.INI.

> - Eric

> > Yea, I thought the same thing. Great sound, but just not loud enough.

by **ymenar** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:09:31

> Very interesting...and Papy-like to have these fine adjustments. But why
is
> there almost a parallel set of adjustments to the menu ones?

Because Papyrus is slowly stopping to care about scalability and in-game
customability (ex: the number of options in the core.ini). Well, they want
to appeal the most to the simple gamer, who would be overwhelmed with all
those buttons (and now with NR2002, all those annoying clicks) <snickers>.
At least they still give us those options.

Ex : We need to exit the sim so that they restart, why can't we open up a
console like so many other titles on the market? Just look at Unreal
Tournament, it's trully a great gUI.

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by **ArcLigh** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:24:15

What would be your suggestion (a numerical figure) ??

Here's my current player ini file as it relates to sound:

++++++++++++++++++++++

Sound Options]
maxSoundsHeard=16 ; Max simultaneous sounds heard
RadioInCarChat=0 ; allow in chat while in car
RadioMsgDelivery=2 ; radio message delivery method
RadioMsgFreq=2 ; radio message frequency
RelativeVol_Crashes=0.950000 ; relative volume for crashes
RelativeVol_Misc=0.900000 ; relative volume for other misc
sound types
RelativeVol_OppEngine=0.200000 ; relative volume for opponent
engines
RelativeVol_PlayerEngine=0.250000 ; relative volume for player engine
RelativeVol_Skids=0.950000 ; relative volume for skids
RelativeVol_Spotter=1.000000 ; relative volume for spotter
RelativeVol_Undefined=1.000000 ; relative volume for undefined
sound types
soundCrashesVolume=84 ; Volume for crash sound effects
soundDimension=1

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

> Increase the value of the "RelativeVol_PlayerEngine" setting in the [Sound
> Options] section of your PLAYER.INI.

> - Eric

> > Yea, I thought the same thing. Great sound, but just not loud enough.

by **Joachim Trens** » Mon, 07 Jan 2002 04:58:46

Hi Don,

I used DatX

Achim

> 99765.news.dfncis.de>:

> >I hope Papy doesn't use only those 4 global sliders for sound ratios in
the
> >full version. They're clearly insufficient. However, since you can unpack
> >the sound.dat, there's nothing to prevent you from adjusting the sound
level
> >directly within the wav files.

> How do you unpack them? I tried dooDAT but it doesn't handle it. I would
love
> to get that engine sound into GPL.

> --
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> Vancouver,B.C.

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by **Marc Collin** » Tue, 08 Jan 2002 02:01:24

Thanks again, Eric. I set it to 1.0 instead of 0.25 or whatever it was, and
everything is perfect (for my ears).

Marc

> Increase the value of the "RelativeVol_PlayerEngine" setting in the [Sound
> Options] section of your PLAYER.INI.

> - Eric

> > Yea, I thought the same thing. Great sound, but just not loud enough.

by **Sting3** » Wed, 09 Jan 2002 10:55:21

turn up the MAX# sounds played, on mine the engine must be 17th, as that
made it work for me <G>

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