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by **Andi Col** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:02:45

I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they
have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

Andi.

by **Allan Paren** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:05:11

yep I got similar results.

Allan

by **Lee** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:41:40

Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters
(i.e., G2 vs. G3).

by **Allan Paren** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:04:26

I got about a 15% boost with my Gforce2 ultra

Allan

> Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters
> (i.e., G2 vs. G3).

> > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement
they
> > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> > Andi.

by **Joseph Huesma** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:13:41

>I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they
>have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

But, do you get performance increases in actual games? That's the issue.

by **Andi Col** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:28:47

It's an Elsa Gladiac 920 (GF3).

Andi.

> Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters
> (i.e., G2 vs. G3).

> > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement
they
> > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> > Andi.

by **Andi Col** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:30:02

Ah, well, I'm not really sure, it's so fast anyway.

Andi.

> >I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement
they
> >have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> But, do you get performance increases in actual games? That's the issue.

by **Jay** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:03:08

I've got a regular GeForce 2 GTS, 64 meg card but also run McAfee VirusScan
and after loading the drivers the damn thing blue screened on me!!!

I had to give the pc the 3 fingered salute which then caused it to boot to
safe mode!!!!

Went back to 12.41 CERTIFIED! drivers and everything is fine again.... I'll
wait until the version 21.x.x come out that are certified.

Jay J

> I got about a 15% boost with my Gforce2 ultra

> Allan

> > Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters
> > (i.e., G2 vs. G3).

> > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement
> they
> > > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> > > Andi.

by **Harr** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 04:21:24

Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek
provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh
boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing.
Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86
marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in
their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough
to bring the balance slightly into the positive range).

> I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they
> have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> Andi.

by **Morten Wennevi** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:50:27

: Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek
: provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh
: boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing.
: Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86
: marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in
: their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough
: to bring the balance slightly into the positive range).

Sounds like what happened to me when I upgraded to detonator 3
my quake2 frame rates dropped 25%, but since the older video
drivers are incompatible with some games, I'm forced to use the
slower newer ones.

I have a feeling they may be rewritten to take advantage of fast
CPUs, but if you don't have one the new code can create bottle
necks.

by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:26:11

> Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek
> provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh
> boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing.
> Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86
> marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in
> their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough
> to bring the balance slightly into the positive range).

strange. I went from ~4800 to ~5400. frame rates fluctuate far less
now, and, perhaps the biggest surprise; the nature demo went from ~20
FPS to never dipping below 30. cool stuff.

GF3, though.

--
Gunnar
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by **James Henr** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:41:30

Did you disable the virus software before installing? The instructions
were pretty specific about that. Perhaps one of the files that the driver
uses, didn't get updated, the partial install could cause all kinds of
grief. Perhaps installing again with your virus software disabled.

Hope this helps
--
Regards,
Jim Henry

by **Jay** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:34:12

Yep.. I used task manager to "end task" each of the McAfee Virusscan
programs before installing, in fact I had all programs save my firewall
(Black Ice) disabled and it seemed to install just fine.

It was after a cold boot that things went downhill..

Jay J

> > I've got a regular GeForce 2 GTS, 64 meg card but also run McAfee
VirusScan
> > and after loading the drivers the damn thing blue screened on me!!!

> > I had to give the pc the 3 fingered salute which then caused it to boot
to
> > safe mode!!!!

> Did you disable the virus software before installing? The instructions
> were pretty specific about that. Perhaps one of the files that the driver
> uses, didn't get updated, the partial install could cause all kinds of
> grief. Perhaps installing again with your virus software disabled.

> Hope this helps
> --
> Regards,
> Jim Henry

by **Chairm** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:25:05

> Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek
> provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh
> boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing.
> Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86
> marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in
> their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough
> to bring the balance slightly into the positive range).

> > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they
> > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> > Andi.

I think it depends greatly on what card you have. I think I read in
one of the previews that GeForce3s would see the most improvement,
with diminishing gains the older your card gets (I think gf2's were
supposed to get ok improvements, while gf1's get pretty much nothing).
haven't checked benchmarks on my gf1 sdr (eeeeeeeeeeew), but it
doesn't 'feel' a heap worse (was running 8.05 b4 as i'm using dx7
games mostly atm).

by **DaySleepe** » Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:28:12

I got the new 21.81 drivers and although everything else is fine, 3D Mark
2001 refuses to finish all of its tests. It gets so far, about test 12 of 20
and then just stops with a blank screen. I've tried re-installing it but it
doesn't help.

Any ideas?

DaySleeper

> Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek
> provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh
> boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing.
> Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86
> marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in
> their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough
> to bring the balance slightly into the positive range).

> > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement
they
> > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance.

> > Andi.

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