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Well, I'd like to believe they have modelled the compliance of the ***
etc. etc., but I think you will find it is just a case of clipping in the
display of intersecting polygons.  however, if they prove me wrong, I'll
eat my copy of "Racecar Engineering" (well, maybe a page or two).

Stephen

"The cars are modelled through the contact patches of the tyres with the road,
and nothing else. No fudging, no canned effects. The tyre model is using the
latest technique from the SAE dynamic conferences. Also modelled are the
weight and mass transfer of the car, the suspension movement and much more."

I guess it's time for you to ingest that information in your book for good. :P

:> : Look at how the tire stays in contact with the ground here
:> : http://www.racesimcentral.net/
:> : See the flat patch on the road?  Wow.  They haven't missed anything!!!
:>
:> : --David Cook
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:> Well, I'd like to believe they have modelled the compliance of the ***
:> etc. etc., but I think you will find it is just a case of clipping in the
:> display of intersecting polygons.  however, if they prove me wrong, I'll
:> eat my copy of "Racecar Engineering" (well, maybe a page or two).

: This quote from the article should whet your appetite hehe...

: "The cars are modelled through the contact patches of the tyres with the road,
: and nothing else. No fudging, no canned effects. The tyre model is using the
: latest technique from the SAE dynamic conferences. Also modelled are the
: weight and mass transfer of the car, the suspension movement and much more."

: I guess it's time for you to ingest that information in your book for good. :P

Well, I'm still holding back on my meal.  The tyre models they refer to
are basic relationships between slip angle, downforce and coefficient of
friction.  Their mention of contact patches most likely just means that
the resultant sideforces are applied at four distint points where the
*** meets the road instead of one central mass point.  not to knock it,
this is a fairly sophisticated way to do it.  But a dynamic model of
compliant tires?  Not in real time on a PC.

Still, I'm stocking up on ketchup in case these boys can do something most
PhDs can't.

stephen

Of course, I won't say the same for the neighbors<vbg>.

don

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All major racing car series is the world, bar F1, use slick tires today...

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Unbelieveable, thats all I have to say!

God bless,
Loren

one thought - suspension movement - didn't see any.
any pix to prove me wrong?  or in development still?

Ray

A 333 SP doesn't have susension movement! <g>
Or about 4-5cms I should imagine...Full no-droop pushrod on all 4 corners.

Mmm, I'm getting sweaty!

Matt
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