rec.autos.simulators

Having said that, I have been looking at the archives in Google and
various web sites, and have pretty much narrowed things down to the
Logitech MOMO Racing or the Logitech MOMO Force.

This will be used almost exclusively for GTR 2002, so I kind of like the
  idea of the shifter on the Racing version. Are there any GT class cars
that use paddle shifters? Are they even legal?

It sounds as if the biggest complaint about the Force wheel is the
pedals, but it also appears that I could use my MS pedals if I
understand this web site correctly. http://www.racesimcentral.net/

What are the opinions of these two wheels? I saw a lot of comparison to
other wheels, but not much against each other.

Thanks,

Kent
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Ask and you shall receive (MOMO comparison) :0)

<http://www.athlonxp.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Diner_Wrapper&fil...
x&req=ShowFile&file_wrap=html/reviews_momo_wheels.html>

I own the MOMO Force (Leather wrapped/paddles only) and I've seen the MOMO
Racing in stores and played around with it a bit (feels much cheaper which
it should).  I also own the old red LWFF which is a great wheel (still works
fine) but not the same as a MOMO which has more precise control and just
seems "tighter".

The MOMO Force has a better feel, higher build quality and seems more robust
than the MOMO Racing.   It should since it originally retailed for $199 US
(street price $140-180), while the Racing is $99 (street of $69 on sale).
I've heard good things about the MOMO Racing as a value alternative.  If
price is not the issue, the Force is a better made wheel and performs
wonderfully for me.

I'd rank the Logitech wheels as follows:

1) MOMO Force
2) LWFF
3) MOMO Racing

Now if I can only get some Speed7 pedals I'd be set.

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Joe M.

I bought the MOMO Racing, and put the extra cash towards a Force RS Shifter.
I hacked up my old MS pedals and rewired them with the RS Shifter to my
gameport.  Now I have a clutch, and an H-pattern shifter, a sequential
shifter and paddles.

Google gave me a broken link to that article for some reason.

P.S., I am incredibly picky about wheels, and love my MOMO Racing.  I would
buy 2 of them instead of one old MOMO.  The quality of the FFB and feel is
almost identical.  I can live without the real leather and refuse to buy a
wheel without at least a sequential gearshift.  The MOMO racing also looks
better sans that horrid red plastic.  The pedals on the old MOMO suck.
Lastly, the MOMO Racing shifter can be mounted on either side of the wheel,
so if you are a right-hand driver, you can still be comfortable.

Marc

It's there. You just have to copy and paste the second line of the url to
the browsers address bar.

http://www.athlonxp.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Diner_Wrapper&fil...
x&req=ShowFile&file_wrap=html/reviews_momo_wheels.html

That is correct!
Do you use a squash ball under your brake pedal?
The Racing Force pedals seems to be better than the MS pedals (and old momo
pedals).  I can't tell if the MS with squash ball is just as good, but it's
definitely better than without one!

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Jone Tytlandsvik
http://tytlandsvik.no

I don't use a squash ball, but I have heard about it being used with
some pedals. I was going to do a search about this, but since you
brought it up, how is this done?

Thanks,

Kent

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For the MS pedals you cut the ball in two, and put one half under the brake
pedal just where the tiny *** "pedal stop" is located. Press quite hard
when you calibrate the brake in your sim. You will then lock the brakes only
when you really step *** the brake, and it's easy to brake hard without
locking up. It's a must for GPL.
I don't think the speed (hardness) of the ball is very important.
For the momo pedals I think they put the whole ball inside the pedals base
and remove the spring.

Jone.

If you're located in the states, I bought my MOMO Force from a retailer
listed on Price Watch for $102.00 delivered.  CompUSA has the MOMO Racing
for $69.99, after rebate that expires on 2/1/03.

Bob

Thanks
Stephan

(snip)

Just curious but where did you find the rebate for the Momo wheel? I just
checked CompUSA's web page under rebates but couldn't find it. Clicking on
the price for the item usually shows the pricing info including rebates but
it simply bounces me back to the $99.99 price page. Under their rebate page
for manufacturer's there is no listing for Logitech. It almost looks as if
this is an actual "sale" price with no MIR. Logitech doesn't show a current
rebate for this wheel at their website either.

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callsignviper

The truth is out there. You just have look in the right places and ask the
right questions.

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                                   See ya in the pits,
                                           Dean

I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

(snip)

Already tried that several times this week. It does NOT link to any rebate,
only to the in-store ad page. Clicking on the Momo wheel on the ad page
takes you to the Momo wheel page. Clicking on the price on the Momo wheel
page simply dumps me back to the Momo wheel page with no hint of a rebate.
Hence my original question!

Same results when I go directly to that product's page on the CompUSA
website. That's why I'm wondering if it's an actual sale without having to
mess with a MIR.

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callsignviper

The truth is out there. You just have look in the right places and ask the
right questions.

Your welcome.