rec.autos.simulators

Not GPL 2.

If you are into shooters you probably remember when Team Fortress 1.5 was
still Team Fortress Classic, and you might even remember when it was Team
Fortress Quake.  While some didn't like it, I immediately enjoyed Team
Fortress Classic more then Team Fortress Quake, despite having played TFQ
for several years before TFC was released.  Why?  They took a great game,
put it in a more modern engine, fixed a number of nagging play balance
issues, and yet still remained faithful to the original, all the way down to
re-creations of the most popular TFQ maps.  I would love to see somebody use
the NR2003 engine to do the same thing to GPL.

Keep the original tracks and cars, but redo them all.  Reloft the tracks and
bring the poly count and texture density up to modern standards.  Fix a
couple of inaccuracies that people have discovered.  Update the car models
and use the correct team names.  Keep the performance the same, but add in
proper tire and brake wear (after all, it's already in the engine).  Maybe
even try and find out what those cars really had in terms of vertical aero
forces, because I'm pretty sure it wasn't zero.  But all the while
preserving the essential character of the game that so many have become
***ed to over the last 5 years.

It's a big job, but I think there are people in the mod community that would
like to do it, and could pull it off.  I'd love to see Papy do it
themselves, that would be the best thing.  But if not them, then maybe the
Project Wildfire guys.  Or GPLEA.  Surely somebody will take this on.  Come
on guys, the great gameplay we all love in a thoroughly up to date engine -
what could be better than that?

I guarantee you I would buy GPL again, and I would submit that the Nascar
Racing Legends updated to the 2003 engine would be cool too!

I think a lot of buyers would be out there.  I just cannot believe that I am
the only one on the planet that has NOT bought any other game (genre) on the
market, except NR(1) through NR2003.  I bought the track packs, the CTS
pack, and viper racing, GPL, but I have never bought quake or anything else,
PERIOD.  (oh wait someone got me Flight Simulator & Combat flight Simulator
3 for me, like Christmas, but they suck with ONLY my wheel to fly them with
LOL!!!)

I have thought about it though.  I am saddened that NR03 might be then end
of the line as far as *** goes for me.  I guess Ill be happy though, as I
see it I spent nearly 400 bucks average each time the NEW iteration of the
Papy's tittles were released.  Heck I even bought the NR-Legends, and I
liked it for what it was, but I damn sure could see the NR-Legends with
2003's physics being one hell of a lot more fun!  I mean 440 + C.I. engines,
with 12" (or so) wide slicks of the day, can you say "LOOSE" and twitchy
horsepower of the 70's!!!  Dang it I honestly think that would be grand, to
do it.  I just think the NR3 engine just didn't cut it for the 70's cars
handling wise, for the sim.

GPL Classic and Nascar Legends Classic would top my list of quick and
dirty N2k3 mods.

If something does something more extensive, I'd still really like CART
and/or Aussie V8's.

Jason

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Marc

Marc

   Have you been to the uspits recently Marc?

http://www.tptcc.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=291

dave henrie

I said it over a year ago ;) -

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=ebf6bab8.0202...

Glad Papy may be seeing the light!

Kendt

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