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RASCAR:

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR:

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:49:53

Don't think anyone ended up parking it there either. But you have to admit
the races were more thinly populated than RASCAR events. Shame that series
fizzled out like that, actually, there were some good people in it.

Jan.
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Uwe hoover Schuerkam

RASCAR:

by Uwe hoover Schuerkam » Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:10:12


> Any change is bad, eh? -Getting old, Uwe... ;-))

yeah, older by the day, my birthday coming up next week...
whatever happened to gentlemanly racing? 8-(

Change isn't generally bad though... like Linux taking the
corporate desktop in Europe by storm is definitely a good thing
;-)

cheers,

uwe

PS: I only run 1:18s at the Glen... should I bother turning up
tonight?

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John Simmon

RASCAR:

by John Simmon » Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:12:41



What the hell kinda question is that? Of course you should.

Eldre

RASCAR:

by Eldre » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:39:55



>"EldredP" wrote...
>> > <snip>
>> I was in a league(Soar, I think) that had a "2 spinds, park
>> it" rule.  I don't *recall* anyone getting caught out by that,
>> but I'm not sure.

>Don't think anyone ended up parking it there either. But you have to admit
>the races were more thinly populated than RASCAR events. Shame that series
>fizzled out like that, actually, there were some good people in it

Whoa, I didn't know it had fizzled out...  That's too bad.
I'm only aware of one driver who was penalized there.  That was me, after I
spun and took out another car. :-(

Eldred
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Larr

RASCAR:

by Larr » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:13:05

So, with these 'no spinning' rules, we're going to OPEN setups, right?

-Larry




> > I know chatting is a huge issue with you and I am sure that we all
> > universally agree that there should be no chatting during Qual, but,
> > honestly I think the only one that cares about chatting under yellow
> > is you.

> I don't care as much about quals as I do the race session.

> > The funny thing is, I doubt that any of the rules will be an issue for
> > me personally because I don't do any of the things you want to
> > penalize people for and I think that goes for the majority who race in
> > RASCAR as well.  However, I think if you impose all of these you
> > probably will see people quit simply due to the fact that it will be
> > impossible to try and keep track of them all.

> When you get right down to it, these are the things you can be given
> penalties for:

> 1) Spinning on your own or causing an incident within 2 laps of a
>    start/restart. This has ALWAYS been a problem. I was actually
>    going to make that within 5 laps of a restart, and I still
>    might change it.

> 2) Stupid passing moves (racing on the apron, or a pass that is
>    ill-advised that causes a caution).

> 3) Excessive chatting.

> Those three things are what causes our cautions and incidental
> contact". That doesn't appear to be all that ***in tough to
> remember. DSon't spin, don't do stupid shit that causes an incident,
> and don't chat.

> The rest (logging on with the right car file and not serving the
> previous winner DQ) are just plain self awareness.

> > I still think we just need some sort of demerit system that results in
> > race suspensions and ultimately permanent suspension.  That way we can
> > promote clean driving and weed out those that week after week show an
> > inability to control their car.

> If the reasons for the demerits are not precisely defined, some
> whiney little *** is gonna start crying and moaning because "it's
> not stated in the rules".

Larr

RASCAR:

by Larr » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:16:29

Bamadano,

Been there, done that.  It's not fun.  Wish her my best!

-Larry


Bamada

RASCAR:

by Bamada » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:26:55

Will do Larry. Hope it worked out well for you.
Thanks,
Dan

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR:

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:43:02

Good point, if we're going for a forced park it rule I want to adjust on my
car if someone reduces my luggage space.

Jan.
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Eldre

RASCAR:

by Eldre » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:08:33


>So, with these 'no spinning' rules, we're going to OPEN setups, right?

Not that I *know* of...

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Peter Ive

RASCAR:

by Peter Ive » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:20:35




>,



>> >"Peter Ives" said

>> >> What it's likely to do is get people complaining that they are being
>> >> victimised when a call goes against them.  Though, if complaining on
>RAS
>> >> is one of the no-no's, then I'm not sure where they should do that
>> >> complaining (Surely you made that one up Ed).

>> >Sorry Peter - you've lost me...   I made what up?

>> That no-one's allowed to complain on RAS.  That rule does seem a bit
>> extreme.  It sounds so much like a kind of public gagging that I hoped
>> you had made it up.  :)

>> To me it smacks of creating a false image of what people think.  If
>> people aren't allowed to say what they feel, for fear of being
>> penalised, then it becomes a form of control.  Everything may seem fine
>> on the surface, because no-one is allowed to speak up in public (Hey,
>> sounds just like how governments work :), whereas behind the scenes
>> there is a lot of ill feeling building up.

>Pocono is the reason for that. I'm all for some spirited discussion,
>but Pocono just tripped off line and things turned to complete shit.

That's one situation only.  Surely not enough to justify a complete
gagging order.  Wouldn't it be more reasonable, if the same kind of
thing occurred again, to warn those involved to either, desist, take it
private, or be subjected to an immediate race ban.  I'm sure all those
involved could live with a rule like that.

Disagreements, as long as they have some kind of rationale, should be
acceptable, as long as the disagreement stays within the bounds of
whatever the protagonists don't see eye to eye about.  Who knows, they
may even help clarify a grey area or 2, of which there will always be a
few.  :)
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Larr

RASCAR:

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:33:41

It was 9 years ago, and I'm still recovering :)  Mine was a rather ***
12-hour, 5-Surgeon deal known as an Anterior/Posterior Multi-Level Fusion
with Instrumentation and was in the lower-Lumbar area.

-Larry


Larr

RASCAR:

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:34:09

Won't work then.

-Larry



writes:

> >So, with these 'no spinning' rules, we're going to OPEN setups, right?

> Not that I *know* of...

> Eldred
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Bamada

RASCAR:

by Bamada » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 04:54:54

Holy crap. Sounds like the official term for a pain in the ass.
Dan
John Simmon

RASCAR:

by John Simmon » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 05:08:03

Stop whining Larry. It wasn't that ***in bad.

:)

Larr

RASCAR:

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:14:43

A true understatement :)

I didn't even wake up for 2 days, and when I did I requested they hit me in
the head with a Hammer to put me back to sleep :)

I have a demonstration video showing 13 minutes of the 12 hour operation
(not mine, but the same).  Believe it or not, Drills, Taps and Torque
Wrenches (no shit) were involved :)

-Larry



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