>> Like I said many times before, the rulesa are based on what I used
>> for a GPL points league several years ago. Our races were some of the
>> cleanest you'd ever want to see. One of the rules was no chatting.
>Like I too have said many times John - GPL racing is an *entirely different
>ballgame*:
>- How often are *you affected* if *another driver spins* out in GPL?
>- How often do you race "bumper to bumper" in GPL ?
>- How often [in GPL] are even withing 5 carlengths of the car infront?
>- What did 9 out of 10 drivers do when they saw a yellow flag in GPL?
>- How often did you even have the chance get your hands of the steering
>wheel to safely type a single word in GPL?
>- How often were you driving behind a pacecar?
>- How often did you have to slow down in order to get behind a pace car?
>- How often did cars that spun out/crashed end up "in the middle of the
>road" in GPL?
>9 out of 10 times any car that spun off or crased would end up off track.
>- How many drivers attended each race? 10? 15? Surely not 25.
Remco
Self spins are one of the easiest ways to determine the amount of practice
someone has put into a given setup/track. The more they self spin, the more
they work the nerves of others trying to dodge or pass them, or watch them come
flyin out of the pits with fresh tires. And self spin again. In my book, one
complete waist of time for the rest of the field for that person to spend their
time trying to learn a track.
Being a novice is one thing, being selfish is entirely another.
That's a solid sensible rule in my opinion.
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Agreed.
>>I know chatting is a huge issue with you and I am sure that we all
>>universally agree that there should be no chatting during Qual, but,
>>honestly I think the only one that cares about chatting under yellow
>>is you.
>Nope - I do too, even though I'm not as heavy-handed about it as John is.
>Since I'm usually in the back of the pack, I see firsthand what the 'accordian
>effect' does to the field when someone tries to type something during pace
>laps.
>Eldred
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That no-one's allowed to complain on RAS. That rule does seem a bit
extreme. It sounds so much like a kind of public gagging that I hoped
you had made it up. :)
To me it smacks of creating a false image of what people think. If
people aren't allowed to say what they feel, for fear of being
penalised, then it becomes a form of control. Everything may seem fine
on the surface, because no-one is allowed to speak up in public (Hey,
sounds just like how governments work :), whereas behind the scenes
there is a lot of ill feeling building up.
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> >"John Simmons" said:
> >> Like I said many times before, the rulesa are based on what I used
> >> for a GPL points league several years ago. Our races were some of the
> >> cleanest you'd ever want to see. One of the rules was no chatting.
> >Like I too have said many times John - GPL racing is an *entirely different
> >ballgame*:
> >- How often are *you affected* if *another driver spins* out in GPL?
Hmmm, I recall several times with the race ended with at least 1st
2nd and 3rd were within sight of each other at the finish, and at
Monaco, less than two seconds separated the first 3 cars.
In IGPS, it happened a lot.
In IGPS, they slowed down.
Never.
Never.
Never.
A lot of times.
We had 15-20.
> >> What it's likely to do is get people complaining that they are being
> >> victimised when a call goes against them. Though, if complaining on RAS
> >> is one of the no-no's, then I'm not sure where they should do that
> >> complaining (Surely you made that one up Ed).
> >Sorry Peter - you've lost me... I made what up?
> That no-one's allowed to complain on RAS. That rule does seem a bit
> extreme. It sounds so much like a kind of public gagging that I hoped
> you had made it up. :)
> To me it smacks of creating a false image of what people think. If
> people aren't allowed to say what they feel, for fear of being
> penalised, then it becomes a form of control. Everything may seem fine
> on the surface, because no-one is allowed to speak up in public (Hey,
> sounds just like how governments work :), whereas behind the scenes
> there is a lot of ill feeling building up.
> Pertaining to this particular situation: there's discussion about possible
> changes to the format of the competition.
Uwe
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Thank you very much Eldred. She is much better today. Home now with a fused
vertabrae in her neck but still kickin. I'll miss the Glen but like you
said...it's just a game. Many thanks for your concern Eldred.
Dan
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