rec.autos.simulators

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate Per4mer
definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I need a new
wheel.
Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
Iain

by **Steve Syret** » Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just upgraded to
W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get force
feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim 2000, go
figure. I'm still trying though...

Steve

by **Greg Cisk** » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
FS2000 going.

--

Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just upgraded to
> W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get force
> feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim 2000, go
> figure. I'm still trying though...

> Steve

> > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate Per4mer
> > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I need a
new
> > wheel.
> > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > Iain

by **Steve Syret** » Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually performing better
than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed in a dual
boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think I'm going
back.

Just my $.02

Steve

> Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
> FS2000 going.

> --

> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just upgraded to
> > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get force
> > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim 2000,
go
> > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > Steve

> > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate Per4mer
> > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I need a
> new
> > > wheel.
> > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > Iain

by **Greg Cisk** » Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

--

Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

> Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually performing better
> than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed in a
dual
> boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think I'm going
> back.

> Just my $.02

> Steve

> > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
> > FS2000 going.

> > --

> > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just upgraded to
> > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get force
> > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim 2000,
> go
> > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > Steve

> > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate
Per4mer
> > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I need
a
> > new
> > > > wheel.
> > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

The only games I've not got working are Falcon4 (which runs but crashes when
trying to go back to main menu) and GPL in 3Dfx mode (works fine in
software.)
There is a whole list at http://ntgamepalace.3dfiles.com/0.htm although it
was set up for NT it now includes W2K.
If I can sort out the GPL thing I won't be going back to W98.
Iain

> Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

> --

> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

> > Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually performing
better
> > than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed in a
> dual
> > boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think I'm
going
> > back.

> > Just my $.02

> > Steve

> > > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
> > > FS2000 going.

> > > --

> > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
hordes.

> > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just upgraded
to
> > > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get force
> > > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim
2000,
> > go
> > > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > > Steve

> > > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate
> Per4mer
> > > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I
need
> a
> > > new
> > > > > wheel.
> > > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > > Iain

by **Steve Syret** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

So far I've got working:
Nascar 3 (w/o force feedback),
GPL w/opengl patch (w/o ff),
flight sim 2000 + a ton of addons (w/ff),
flight unlimited III (w/ff),
Jane's F15,
a ton of my wife's card games (Hoyle classic)
I think Madden NFL 99 -- but I don't remember if I tried it -- I will in
just a minute!

As far as non-game apps, Everything has worked so far except I'm having
trouble sharing a printer on my LAN with other non-W2K computers (I think
due to the printer - HP LaserJet 3100 is known for not being network
friendly).

Steve

> Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

> --

> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

> > Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually performing
better
> > than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed in a
> dual
> > boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think I'm
going
> > back.

> > Just my $.02

> > Steve

> > > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
> > > FS2000 going.

> > > --

> > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
hordes.

> > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just upgraded
to
> > > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get force
> > > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim
2000,
> > go
> > > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > > Steve

> > > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate
> Per4mer
> > > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I
need
> a
> > > new
> > > > > wheel.
> > > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > > Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

What is the OpenGL patch you mention? Patch for what W2K or GPL?
Iain

> GPL w/opengl patch (w/o ff),
> flight sim 2000 + a ton of addons (w/ff),
> flight unlimited III (w/ff),
> Jane's F15,
> a ton of my wife's card games (Hoyle classic)
> I think Madden NFL 99 -- but I don't remember if I tried it -- I will in
> just a minute!

> As far as non-game apps, Everything has worked so far except I'm having
> trouble sharing a printer on my LAN with other non-W2K computers (I think
> due to the printer - HP LaserJet 3100 is known for not being network
> friendly).

> Steve

> > Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

> > --

> > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

> > > Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually performing
> better
> > > than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed in a
> > dual
> > > boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think I'm
> going
> > > back.

> > > Just my $.02

> > > Steve

> > > > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
> > > > FS2000 going.

> > > > --

> > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
> hordes.

> > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just
upgraded
> to
> > > > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get
force
> > > > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim
> 2000,
> > > go
> > > > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > > > Steve

> > > > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate
> > Per4mer
> > > > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and I
> need
> > a
> > > > new
> > > > > > wheel.
> > > > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > > > Iain

by **Steve Syret** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You can get it from the papyrus web site -- opengl.zip. It's only about
70KB and the readme states that it is a beta and unsupported, but it works
fine. It is not specifically for W2K, but it seems to work fine.

Steve

> What is the OpenGL patch you mention? Patch for what W2K or GPL?
> Iain

> > GPL w/opengl patch (w/o ff),
> > flight sim 2000 + a ton of addons (w/ff),
> > flight unlimited III (w/ff),
> > Jane's F15,
> > a ton of my wife's card games (Hoyle classic)
> > I think Madden NFL 99 -- but I don't remember if I tried it -- I will in
> > just a minute!

> > As far as non-game apps, Everything has worked so far except I'm having
> > trouble sharing a printer on my LAN with other non-W2K computers (I
think
> > due to the printer - HP LaserJet 3100 is known for not being network
> > friendly).

> > Steve

> > > Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

> > > --

> > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
hordes.

> > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

> > > > Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually performing
> > better
> > > > than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed in
a
> > > dual
> > > > boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think I'm
> > going
> > > > back.

> > > > Just my $.02

> > > > Steve

> > > > > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to get
> > > > > FS2000 going.

> > > > > --

> > > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
> > hordes.

> > > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just
> upgraded
> > to
> > > > > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get
> force
> > > > > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight Sim
> > 2000,
> > > > go
> > > > > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > > > > Steve

> > > > > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My Ultimate
> > > Per4mer
> > > > > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs and
I
> > need
> > > a
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > wheel.
> > > > > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > > > > Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Where at Papy's site? I've looked, but I just can't see it!
Help!
or could you email it to me?
Thanks,
Iain

> You can get it from the papyrus web site -- opengl.zip. It's only about
> 70KB and the readme states that it is a beta and unsupported, but it works
> fine. It is not specifically for W2K, but it seems to work fine.

> Steve

> > What is the OpenGL patch you mention? Patch for what W2K or GPL?
> > Iain

> > > GPL w/opengl patch (w/o ff),
> > > flight sim 2000 + a ton of addons (w/ff),
> > > flight unlimited III (w/ff),
> > > Jane's F15,
> > > a ton of my wife's card games (Hoyle classic)
> > > I think Madden NFL 99 -- but I don't remember if I tried it -- I will
in
> > > just a minute!

> > > As far as non-game apps, Everything has worked so far except I'm
having
> > > trouble sharing a printer on my LAN with other non-W2K computers (I
> think
> > > due to the printer - HP LaserJet 3100 is known for not being network
> > > friendly).

> > > Steve

> > > > Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

> > > > --

> > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
> hordes.

> > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > > Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck", but...

> > > > > Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually
performing
> > > better
> > > > > than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I installed
in
> a
> > > > dual
> > > > > boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think
I'm
> > > going
> > > > > back.

> > > > > Just my $.02

> > > > > Steve

> > > > > > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to
get
> > > > > > FS2000 going.

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
> > > hordes.

> > > > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > > > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just
> > upgraded
> > > to
> > > > > > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to get
> > force
> > > > > > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight
Sim
> > > 2000,
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > > > > > Steve

> > > > > > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My
Ultimate
> > > > Per4mer
> > > > > > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs
and
> I
> > > need
> > > > a
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > wheel.
> > > > > > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > > > > > Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

OK, I got it. It gets further than before, but I get a small screen for
menus, and the mouse pointer disappears and I can't select any options. So,
I'm stuck again!
Any suggestions?
Iain

> Where at Papy's site? I've looked, but I just can't see it!
> Help!
> or could you email it to me?
> Thanks,
> Iain

> > You can get it from the papyrus web site -- opengl.zip. It's only
about
> > 70KB and the readme states that it is a beta and unsupported, but it
works
> > fine. It is not specifically for W2K, but it seems to work fine.

> > Steve

> > > What is the OpenGL patch you mention? Patch for what W2K or GPL?
> > > Iain

> > > > GPL w/opengl patch (w/o ff),
> > > > flight sim 2000 + a ton of addons (w/ff),
> > > > flight unlimited III (w/ff),
> > > > Jane's F15,
> > > > a ton of my wife's card games (Hoyle classic)
> > > > I think Madden NFL 99 -- but I don't remember if I tried it -- I
will
> in
> > > > just a minute!

> > > > As far as non-game apps, Everything has worked so far except I'm
> having
> > > > trouble sharing a printer on my LAN with other non-W2K computers (I
> > think
> > > > due to the printer - HP LaserJet 3100 is known for not being network
> > > > friendly).

> > > > Steve

> > > > > Cool, what games have you tried it with so far?

> > > > > --

> > > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
> > hordes.

> > > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > > > Well, I'd like to think of it as more "skill" than "luck",
but...

> > > > > > Seriously, other than some drive issues, W2K is actually
> performing
> > > > better
> > > > > > than W98 on many of the apps I use (games included). I
installed
> in
> > a
> > > > > dual
> > > > > > boot configuration in case I still needed W98, but I don't think
> I'm
> > > > going
> > > > > > back.

> > > > > > Just my $.02

> > > > > > Steve

> > > > > > > Since W2k is essentially NT 5.0, I would say you are lucky to
> get
> > > > > > > FS2000 going.

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the
spamming
> > > > hordes.

> > > > > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > > > > > > > I have the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (USB) and I just
> > > upgraded
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > W2K -- and have had some success. I haven't been able to
get
> > > force
> > > > > > > > feedback to work for Nascar 3, but it does work in MS Flight
> Sim
> > > > 2000,
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > figure. I'm still trying though...

> > > > > > > > Steve

message

> > > > > > > > > Has anyone got one working yet with Windows 2000? My
> Ultimate
> > > > > Per4mer
> > > > > > > > > definitely doesn't work, SC&T have stopped supporting PCs
> and
> > I
> > > > need
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > wheel.
> > > > > > > > > Which is the best these days, Actlabs, Saitek?
> > > > > > > > > Iain

by **Steve Syret** » Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Iain,

Are you also using the latest patch for GPL? It is also at the papyrus web
site (gpl12_us.exe is the one I used).

If you are using that version with the opengl patch, then it must be
hardware or driver issues?? All I can offer is my setup:
PII400, 128MB, Viper770 ultra with Nvidia reference driver 3.78.

Steve

> OK, I got it. It gets further than before, but I get a small screen for
> menus, and the mouse pointer disappears and I can't select any options.
So,
> I'm stuck again!
> Any suggestions?
> Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Thu, 02 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Yep, I'm using 1.2. Still can't get GPL to work. Can't see mouse pointer and
therefore unable to make any selections!
Iain

> Iain,

> Are you also using the latest patch for GPL? It is also at the papyrus
web
> site (gpl12_us.exe is the one I used).

> If you are using that version with the opengl patch, then it must be
> hardware or driver issues?? All I can offer is my setup:
> PII400, 128MB, Viper770 ultra with Nvidia reference driver 3.78.

> Steve

> > OK, I got it. It gets further than before, but I get a small screen for
> > menus, and the mouse pointer disappears and I can't select any options.
> So,
> > I'm stuck again!
> > Any suggestions?
> > Iain

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