rec.autos.simulators

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:40:05

Hi folks,

after upgrading to XP pro I still haven't fully resolved my GPL sound
issue (even on the new audigy 2 zs). After a bit of driving, sometimes
the sound goes all digital and high-pitched, and the system needs a
reboot in order to get decent sound working again.

I "fixed" this problem thanks to another hint posted here a while ago,
by installing the gpl2004 demo into a separate folder and copying over
everything from the demo installation to my gpl folder.

However, I cannot stand the brabham sound provided with the demo, so I
was wondering if anybody has the original brab.wav file extracted from
the audio.dat so that I could use it with my gpl installation.

All the best & thanks for any ideas,

uwe

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by **Drive** » Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:21:41

Download dooDAT v1.3 and you can extract the originals sounds.

http://www.thenorwaypits.com/fbody/nascar/stedit.html

by **Don Scurloc** » Sat, 01 Jan 2005 04:12:11

I'm having the exact same problem since going to XP pro but a reboot
doesn't clear it up for me. It does it almost all the time but then
sometimes, very rarely, clears up by itself, very flaky. I'm still using a
SB Live sound card. I'll give your solution a try.
I agree with Driver's suggestion of using dooDat to extract the wav file,
but I'll send it to you if you'd prefer. Don

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:16:52

> I'm having the exact same problem since going to XP pro but a reboot
> doesn't clear it up for me. It does it almost all the time but then
> sometimes, very rarely, clears up by itself, very flaky. I'm still using a
> SB Live sound card. I'll give your solution a try.
> I agree with Driver's suggestion of using dooDat to extract the wav file,
> but I'll send it to you if you'd prefer. Don

Hi Don,

after copying over the 2004 demo files, re-apply the 1.2.0.1 patch
plus cpu speedfix. So far, the sewing machine sound has *not*
reappeared, but I've said that far too often for my taste over the
last couple of months.

Good luck,

uwe

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by **BRH** » Sat, 01 Jan 2005 12:29:09

>>Hi folks,

>>after upgrading to XP pro I still haven't fully resolved my GPL sound
>>issue (even on the new audigy 2 zs). After a bit of driving, sometimes
>>the sound goes all digital and high-pitched, and the system needs a
>>reboot in order to get decent sound working again.

>>I "fixed" this problem thanks to another hint posted here a while ago,
>>by installing the gpl2004 demo into a separate folder and copying over
>>everything from the demo installation to my gpl folder.

> I'm having the exact same problem since going to XP pro but a reboot
> doesn't clear it up for me. It does it almost all the time but then
> sometimes, very rarely, clears up by itself, very flaky. I'm still using a
> SB Live sound card. I'll give your solution a try.
> I agree with Driver's suggestion of using dooDat to extract the wav file,
> but I'll send it to you if you'd prefer. Don

FWIW -- I had similar problems with GPL sound in XP Pro when I had an
SBLive card. I ended up replacing the SBLive card with a TB Santa Cruz,
which at the time (2 years ago?) cost only $40. That solved my problem.
The card is probably even less expensive now.

by **Larr** » Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:10:11

The Santa Cruz is a wonderful card. I still have mine somewhere, but it was
replaced with a Audigy 2 Platinum Pro.

I don't recall why I did it. Sometimes I wish I hadn't.

-Larry

>>>Hi folks,

>>>after upgrading to XP pro I still haven't fully resolved my GPL sound
>>>issue (even on the new audigy 2 zs). After a bit of driving, sometimes
>>>the sound goes all digital and high-pitched, and the system needs a
>>>reboot in order to get decent sound working again.
>>>I "fixed" this problem thanks to another hint posted here a while ago,
>>>by installing the gpl2004 demo into a separate folder and copying over
>>>everything from the demo installation to my gpl folder.

>> I'm having the exact same problem since going to XP pro but a reboot
>> doesn't clear it up for me. It does it almost all the time but then
>> sometimes, very rarely, clears up by itself, very flaky. I'm still using
>> a SB Live sound card. I'll give your solution a try.
>> I agree with Driver's suggestion of using dooDat to extract the wav
>> file, but I'll send it to you if you'd prefer. Don

> FWIW -- I had similar problems with GPL sound in XP Pro when I had an
> SBLive card. I ended up replacing the SBLive card with a TB Santa Cruz,
> which at the time (2 years ago?) cost only $40. That solved my problem.
> The card is probably even less expensive now.

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:20:30

Uwe, it's like you have become our group's own personal beta ***
boy.
Keep finding the fixes laddie.. :)
(of course I'll never remember this by the time I finally am forced to XP
or it's offspring)
lol
dh

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 01:10:52

> Uwe, it's like you have become our group's own personal beta ***
> boy.
> Keep finding the fixes laddie.. :)
> (of course I'll never remember this by the time I finally am forced to XP
> or it's offspring)
> lol
> dh

groups.google.com will be your friend then, Dave ;-)

Cheers,

uwe

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by **Asgeir Nesoe** » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:19:01

SB live! has an unresolved issue with XP, and there seems to be no fix
for it, *except* reducing the amount of "sound hardware acceleration" to
next to none.

However, this is not acceptable, at least not in my computer config,
since the sound will lag, and have ugly "notches", which combined will
make GPL next to unplayable, mind you.

I bought a SB audigy 2 card, and GPL works nicely with that one, BUT
that card will mess up the NR2003 sounds, playing havoc with the
volumes, among other things it will reduce your engine level to "barely
audible"... So SB Audigy2 will make NR2003 unplayable...

So, a natural question arises: Is there a soundcard out there that will
work with BOTH GPL and NR2003???

---Asgeir---

>>Hi folks,

>>after upgrading to XP pro I still haven't fully resolved my GPL sound
>>issue (even on the new audigy 2 zs). After a bit of driving, sometimes
>>the sound goes all digital and high-pitched, and the system needs a
>>reboot in order to get decent sound working again.

>>I "fixed" this problem thanks to another hint posted here a while ago,
>>by installing the gpl2004 demo into a separate folder and copying over
>>everything from the demo installation to my gpl folder.

> I'm having the exact same problem since going to XP pro but a reboot
> doesn't clear it up for me. It does it almost all the time but then
> sometimes, very rarely, clears up by itself, very flaky. I'm still using a
> SB Live sound card. I'll give your solution a try.
> I agree with Driver's suggestion of using dooDat to extract the wav file,
> but I'll send it to you if you'd prefer. Don

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:23:55

> So, a natural question arises: Is there a soundcard out there that will
> work with BOTH GPL and NR2003???

Hmm, I swapped my SBLive! Value for an Audigy 2 ZS and so far it
appears to work fine. *fingers crossed*

uwe

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by **Asgeir Nesoe** » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:50:51

At one time, SB cards were the standard, but I am growing more and more
suspicous of the SB cards...

I may end up buying something completely different, just to see if that
makes life easier...

---A---

>>So, a natural question arises: Is there a soundcard out there that will
>>work with BOTH GPL and NR2003???

> Hmm, I swapped my SBLive! Value for an Audigy 2 ZS and so far it
> appears to work fine. *fingers crossed*

> uwe

by **Don Scurloc** » Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:56:01

Creative acknowledges that there are SB Live problems with xp, but, even if
I unistall my soundcard and use the AC97 onboard sound on my Epox 8KHA+
motherboard I still have problems with GPL sound, and I have had no
problems with any other software either with AC97 or SB Live since switchig
to windows xp. So it's likely more of a GPL/windows xp problem than a SB
Live problem.

Don

by **Michael Ziegle** » Wed, 05 Jan 2005 05:12:17

Don Scurlock schrieb:

>>SB live! has an unresolved issue with XP, and there seems to be no fix
>>for it, *except* reducing the amount of "sound hardware acceleration"
>>to next to none.

>>However, this is not acceptable, at least not in my computer config,
>>since the sound will lag, and have ugly "notches", which combined will
>>make GPL next to unplayable, mind you.

>>I bought a SB audigy 2 card, and GPL works nicely with that one, BUT
>>that card will mess up the NR2003 sounds, playing havoc with the
>>volumes, among other things it will reduce your engine level to
>>"barely audible"... So SB Audigy2 will make NR2003 unplayable...

>>So, a natural question arises: Is there a soundcard out there that
>>will work with BOTH GPL and NR2003???

> Creative acknowledges that there are SB Live problems with xp, but, even if
> I unistall my soundcard and use the AC97 onboard sound on my Epox 8KHA+
> motherboard I still have problems with GPL sound, and I have had no
> problems with any other software either with AC97 or SB Live since switchig
> to windows xp. So it's likely more of a GPL/windows xp problem than a SB
> Live problem.

> Don

Try to use not more than 50% volume in the mixer setting with your
Audigy. Mine is working fine with GPL and GTR.

by **Malc** » Wed, 05 Jan 2005 06:41:21

> Creative acknowledges that there are SB Live problems with xp, but, even
if
> I unistall my soundcard and use the AC97 onboard sound on my Epox 8KHA+
> motherboard I still have problems with GPL sound, and I have had no
> problems with any other software either with AC97 or SB Live since
switchig
> to windows xp. So it's likely more of a GPL/windows xp problem than a SB
> Live problem.

gpl is an old title & standards change, but it just uses 'normal' Dx3 sound
acceleration. It works perfectly with DX7 & below, it works well with DX8 &
later with a little tweaking.

If you reduce sound acceleration to 'basic' (one up from 'none') you will
avoid the stepping & garbled sounds with any soundcard, if that doesn't cure
it the problem is not with gpl imo, you need to reinstall your drivers or
sort out any conflicting hardware.

If you hear crackling turn the volume down in windows (and gpl) and turn up
your speakers.

Malc.

by **Byron Forbe** » Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:33:34

Dunno how relevent this may be but I found it pretty
interesting/disturbing.

Was mucking about with WinDVD the other day and in the audio settings I
changed the "audio renderer" from auto to wave out (directX being the other
option). The next time I started NR2003 there where pinging sounds and no
engine noise in***pit veiw. I have an Audigy I. Weird!

> > SB live! has an unresolved issue with XP, and there seems to be no fix
> > for it, *except* reducing the amount of "sound hardware acceleration"
> > to next to none.

> > However, this is not acceptable, at least not in my computer config,
> > since the sound will lag, and have ugly "notches", which combined will
> > make GPL next to unplayable, mind you.

> > I bought a SB audigy 2 card, and GPL works nicely with that one, BUT
> > that card will mess up the NR2003 sounds, playing havoc with the
> > volumes, among other things it will reduce your engine level to
> > "barely audible"... So SB Audigy2 will make NR2003 unplayable...

> > So, a natural question arises: Is there a soundcard out there that
> > will work with BOTH GPL and NR2003???

> Creative acknowledges that there are SB Live problems with xp, but, even
if
> I unistall my soundcard and use the AC97 onboard sound on my Epox 8KHA+
> motherboard I still have problems with GPL sound, and I have had no
> problems with any other software either with AC97 or SB Live since
switchig
> to windows xp. So it's likely more of a GPL/windows xp problem than a SB
> Live problem.

> Don

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