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General recap to date.
1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David.
2. David calls George a has been.
3. George beats some of Daves F1 2002 laps
4. Dave says go beat my Suzuka lap
5. George Does beat Suzuka lap
6.Dave says F1 2002 is coffee coaster
7. George calls Dave chicken
8. Dave says beat Ring time in GPL
9. George loads GPL cause dave wont race other sim
10. Dave falls for Bait to race George who has GPL on HD for 2 hours in
2+years
11. Dave beats George and beats Chest...Now on with you he says.
12 George runs a few more laps and approaches Daves Race times.
13 Dave says Welcome back Geo...
Im sure youll find it boring as hell thesedays, noone plays now apart from
noobs....Even SRM conked out last week as they couldnt fill a server...
I wouldnt bother personally....I do a race a month to release im bored of it
and resign my PC back to a desk, which is exactly what ill do now again for
another month...
Is there a pattern forming here? Is Dave getting ready to say GPL is a
coffee coaster?
Is he setting it up so if he gets beat it is cause he resigned his PC back
to a desk?
What will his next excuse be?
14 George Thanks David for getting him Back into GPL.
15 to come....Dave will post more ***on his web page.
the saga continues....
Sometimes I let the slower guys by just to keep their spirits up. :-p
It's funny, but I raced George about five years ago in CPR (I'm doubt he
remembers me, but I remember the "Sandman"). We raced on the Zone
occasionally and went back and forth holding the top spot at Case's ladder
for awhile. Can't believe that was almost five years already. Time flies.
David G Fisher
Lol.
Sometimes you need to set the record straight around here before things get
too out of hand. :-)
David G Fisher
Mikkel
> >"EldredP" wrote...
> >> I'll even provide a server if there's a 'grudge match'...
> >Hmmm... depends on whether we can get Kruuse and Bjornstad to come out
now
> >I've passed them on GPLRank. ;-)
> Hey, what *did* happen to Jens? I haven't seen him post in a while, but
I've
> seen Asbjorn post...
> Eldred
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You're an alien, Eldred ;-)
Jon Andersen
> Well ber-Farnk's opinion and view of the situation is that you are an
> egoistical maniac with a severe lack of self-esteem.
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Oh yeah and stop top-posting <ducks> ;)
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You should learn a little about the Usenet and the relative
> <really big snip>
> General recap to date.
> 1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David.
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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GPL is 4 years old.
How dare you say that those doing close to WR laps 2-4 years ago were no
good? BTW: In your list of respected drivers, several of those left the
scene a while ago. If Mr. Sandman isn't worthy of respect, then I fail to
see how a few of the other drivers you mentioned are worthy of respect.
Although you do not say this explicitly about Roland Ehnstr?m, you are
saying that the heroes of the past left before real talent came along.
Roland left the scene approx 2 years ago. He was never number 1. He is still
ranked 31th. Risto Junnilainen left the scene before I came along. He is
still 34th.
In 4 years, you may have gotten a life, and have quit GPL. By that time, you
probably will not be ranked number 10 at GPLrank. You just may find yourself
outside top 100. By your logic, you must be crap, then. You quit before some
real talent came along.
You being number 10 at GPLrank is a snapshot of history. Mr Sandman had his
snapshot a few years ago. Still, you insist on comparing those snapshots as
if they were taken at the same time. Please do that after you have quit GPL,
too. Then you would find that you are being beaten by some, arrogant kid,
telling you that you were no good, racing before real talent came along.
I remember when Barty Mee came along. He was the laughing stock at Vroc. The
one everybody picked on. He did a few surprisingly fast laps, but was
ridiculed for not being able to complete a race. He had been doing GPL for 6
months. Those ridiculing him had been racing for 2 years. Of course he
crashed out more often than the veterans. He had less seat time. But he had
talent. He was fast, in spite of limited seat time. That's the kind of skill
David Powell refuses to acknowledge in his fight with Mr. Sandman. Mr.
Sandman was fast at an early stage, when very few (including Mr Sandman
himself) had much seat time. BTW: when Barty was bragging about his
improvements, and had passed David Powell on GPLrank, Barty bragged about
it, teasing David. David's response was: "I don't care about being fast". In
your fight with Mr. Sandman you have mentioned you being number 10 in
GPLrank, whereas him being 129th, using this as a proof of you being more
talented/faster than him. Did you lie when you said you didn't care about
speed, or are you lying now?
I have met David on track. He is very easy to spot. You do not see him. He
is probably way ahead. Then, he meets some lappers. That's when you realize
David Powell is in the race. He crashes out, trying to pass a lapper, then
yells: "Fool!".
David has beaten me on track. He scared me off track by having more seat
time, and therefore more tactical skills. He would probably kick my butt at
any track at any time. He has always been faster than me. He has been
GPL-ing longer than me.
In this loooong posting, I have been addressing Mr Sandman as Mr Sandman,
and David Powell as David Powell. Why? Figure it out for yourself. Keyword
is: respect.
David Powell may not be the fastest racer on earth, but he is having a close
battle with the only worthy competitor (SAVATS) for being the fastest,
arrogant asshole in the world.
Jon Andersen,
with no respect
"David Powell" <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> skrev i melding
news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has monster
> rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of consistancy
> with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to reach
> Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I could reach
> for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest, but
> hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has.
> Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quick
reliable
> but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.
> Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.
> U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly in 2000.
> Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.
> Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed with what
i
> saw.
> Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion,
total
> domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early
> 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every respect
> dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.
> Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed to fade
> away as the new drivers got online.
> Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speed till
> about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck with GPL
> to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.
> Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo failed
to
> stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly for me
as
> with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played his
> cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.
> Hannsson - WHO?
> Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, doesnt
he
> run an F2 league now.
> etc etc
> It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only Gabor,
> Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big times on
> GPL.
> Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip,
Marante,
> Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, Reinhold,
> Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman Furlan,
> Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You have
GPL
> at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of respected
> drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually no
> drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of
> mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...But
thats
> all part of the game...
> Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the scene, I
> and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its demise,
> GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hanging
around
> in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)
> As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than George at
> playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition playing
the
> game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPL time
> and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo hasnt
> been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of others from
> the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont
> figure in the equation.
> GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was when i
> arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, so
sadly
> Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which by
modern
> standards as slow as shit...
> This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dont play
> F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hope once
> again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed before
> there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact on
GPL
> in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where everyone
> has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top ablilties
> and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL in the
> early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its not
> always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top at the
> finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make your
mark
> with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you won a
> season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a game called
> GPL is mate, laughable....
> If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheel to
> wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here argueing
> with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. Id
have
> raced with you during that period and know your limits, your proper
talents.
> I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL when
it
> came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that while people
> were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains at the
> finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon
convesations
> unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
> Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fast of
> the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest in it
> shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and lets
fact
> it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL...
> Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate your
not
> one of them :)
> David
> David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1028473021.52575.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen just
> > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same sentance
> as
> > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back in
early
> to
> > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were
> racing
> > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and what
> ive
> > seen of him on
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