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to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

George Sandma

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by George Sandma » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:04:15

Well Congrads Dave!  you actually showed up.

Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave.  I run a total of 8 laps in over 2
years and this guy expects me to run 03's  hehe.

Dave won the Glen race I was in.  Ran I think 4 laps practice needless to
say not enough to get the feel of the track again.  After the start I tried
to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I tagged one
in the right rear.  Damaged susp and had to pit.  Couple laps later a guy is
sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he
backs right into my path.  Oh well that Sim Racin :-(

So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his.  Looking forward to
interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)

Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great?  only ran 1:04.38???  geez I
was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty!

George Sandman

David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message

news:1028485544.82634.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> George noone cares mate :)

> George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:ukqrrj1gpi867a@corp.supernews.com...
> > David,

> > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O

> > Shame on me.  I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some
> kind
> > of records.

> > You just crack me up.

> > Get on the track dickhead!

> > The Sandman is Back!

> > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > news:ukqrcrjpave9c4@corp.supernews.com...
> > > To Benchracer Dave,

> > > No that was low 20's  and you must have spies out cause your too
chicken
> > to
> > > join in yourself.  Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin
> alittle
> > > Dave?   Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and
> > finish
> > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's!  I know
its
> > slow
> > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.

> > > At least I am not chicken to come to you!

> > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back
> into
> > it
> > > and you can beat on yer chest.

> > > Or will you ever race?  Guess I will just have to wait for you to join
> > > something and I follow?

> > > Talk on the Track you idiot!

> > > George

> > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:1028481635.31918.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to
me,
> > and
> > > I
> > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old has
> > been
> > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....

> > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off
my
> > > > Hyperstim to show you up.

> > > > David

> > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:1028481269.31376.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)

> > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ukqnlq9i0i7b6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching
some
> > old
> > > > has
> > > > > > been as lesson at RAS?  Daves spellin as usual :-)

> > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is
> the
> > > only
> > > > > > chance he has of beating me!

> > > > > > George

> > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this
> > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > and I will talk frankly...

> > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited,
> has
> > > > > monster
> > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of
> > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time
> to
> > > > reach
> > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I
> > could
> > > > > reach
> > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the
> > > fastest,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has.

> > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times,
> > quick
> > > > > > reliable
> > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.

> > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.

> > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off
> properly
> > in
> > > > > 2000.

> > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.

> > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over
impressed
> > > with
> > > > > what
> > > > > > i
> > > > > > > saw.

> > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate
> > > champion,
> > > > > > total
> > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online
> early
> > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in
every
> > > > respect
> > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.

> > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then
> seemed
> > to
> > > > > fade
> > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.

> > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the
> > speed
> > > > > till
> > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer,
> stuck
> > > with
> > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.

> > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with
> Geo
> > > > > failed
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor
> sadly
> > > for
> > > > me
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL
> > played
> > > > his
> > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.

> > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO?

> > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly
> quick,
> > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > run an F2 league now.

> > > > > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe
> only
> > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the
> big
> > > > times
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > GPL.

> > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee,
> Wintrip,
> > > > > > Marante,
> > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt,
> > > > Reinhold,
> > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,
Kleman
> > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot.
> You
> > > > have
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list
of
> > > > > respected
> > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were
> > virually
> > > > no
> > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times
of
> > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for
> > > themselves...But
> > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > all part of the game...

> > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on
the
> > > > scene,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to
> its
> > > > > demise,
> > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been
> > hanging
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)

> > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than
> > > George
> > > > at
> > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in
competition
> > > > playing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in
my
> > GPL
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races
> Geo
> > > > hasnt
> > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of
> > others
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest
> you
> > > dont
> > > > > > > figure in the equation.

> > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it
> was
> > > when
> > > > i
> > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the
> nest,
> > > so
> > > > > > sadly
> > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps,
> which
> > > by
> > > > > > modern
> > > > > > > standards as slow as shit...

> > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I
play....I
> > dont
> > > > > play
> > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I
dearly
> > > hope
> > > > > once
> > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly
departed
> > > > before
> > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an
> > impact
> > > > on
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing
where
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there
top
> > > > > ablilties
> > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs
hayday.
> > GPL
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's
case
> > its
> > > > not
> > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on
> Top
> > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and
> make
> > > your

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ymenar

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by ymenar » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:56:17

<another snippage>

The worst here is that you actually think we care here on r.a.s. about that.
Most of us will "Mark this thread as read" after a couple of egoistical
posts from yours.  I mean we have better time to spend then reading your
dribble over something we don't care!

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

George Sandma

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by George Sandma » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:06:11

hehe  you funny guy!

you enjoy that beating on yer chest there guy!

Dont hurt yourself.

Geo

David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message

news:1028487478.95692.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> http://home.clara.net/david.powell4/GSrace.html

> now be off with you....

> David

> David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1028485544.82634.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > George noone cares mate :)

> > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > news:ukqrrj1gpi867a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > David,

> > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O

> > > Shame on me.  I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some
> > kind
> > > of records.

> > > You just crack me up.

> > > Get on the track dickhead!

> > > The Sandman is Back!

> > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ukqrcrjpave9c4@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > To Benchracer Dave,

> > > > No that was low 20's  and you must have spies out cause your too
> chicken
> > > to
> > > > join in yourself.  Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin
> > alittle
> > > > Dave?   Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and
> > > finish
> > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's!  I know
> its
> > > slow
> > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.

> > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you!

> > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back
> > into
> > > it
> > > > and you can beat on yer chest.

> > > > Or will you ever race?  Guess I will just have to wait for you to
join
> > > > something and I follow?

> > > > Talk on the Track you idiot!

> > > > George

> > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:1028481635.31918.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to
> me,
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old
has
> > > been
> > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....

> > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off
> my
> > > > > Hyperstim to show you up.

> > > > > David

> > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1028481269.31376.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)

> > > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:ukqnlq9i0i7b6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching
> some
> > > old
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS?  Daves spellin as usual :-)

> > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back
is
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > > > chance he has of beating me!

> > > > > > > George

> > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this
> > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly...

> > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super
commited,
> > has
> > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level
of
> > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long
time
> > to
> > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything
I
> > > could
> > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the
> > > > fastest,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has.

> > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001
times,
> > > quick
> > > > > > > reliable
> > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.

> > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.

> > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off
> > properly
> > > in
> > > > > > 2000.

> > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.

> > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over
> impressed
> > > > with
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > saw.

> > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate
> > > > champion,
> > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online
> > early
> > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in
> every
> > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.

> > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then
> > seemed
> > > to
> > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.

> > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find
the
> > > speed
> > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer,
> > stuck
> > > > with
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.

> > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as
with
> > Geo
> > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor
> > sadly
> > > > for
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL
> > > played
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.

> > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO?

> > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly
> > quick,
> > > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > run an F2 league now.

> > > > > > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing
maybe
> > only
> > > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in
the
> > big
> > > > > times
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > GPL.

> > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee,
> > Wintrip,
> > > > > > > Marante,
> > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden,
Schmidt,
> > > > > Reinhold,
> > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,
> Kleman
> > > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i
forgot.
> > You
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my
list
> of
> > > > > > respected
> > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were
> > > virually
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times
> of
> > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for
> > > > themselves...But
> > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > > all part of the game...

> > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on
> the
> > > > > scene,
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done
to
> > its
> > > > > > demise,
> > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been
> > > hanging
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)

> > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better
than
> > > > George
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in
> competition
> > > > > playing
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and
in
> my
> > > GPL
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2
races
> > Geo
> > > > > hasnt
> > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot
of
> > > others
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its
finest
> > you
> > > > dont
> > > > > > > > figure in the equation.

> > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that
it
> > was
> > > > when
> > > > > i
> > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the
> > nest,
> > > > so
> > > > > > > sadly
> > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps,
> > which
> > > > by
> > > > > > > modern
> > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit...

> > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I
> play....I
> > > dont
> > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I
> dearly
> > > > hope
> > > > > > once
> > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly
> departed
> > > > > before
> > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make
an
> > > impact
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing
> where
> > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there
> top
> > > > > > ablilties
> > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs
> hayday.
> > > GPL
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's
> case
> > > its
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out
on
> > Top
> > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and
> > make
> > > > your

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David Powel

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by David Powel » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:15:17

George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your just
an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the first
laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and you
were fucking terrible.

As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as to
me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending more
time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id beat
McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im sure id
beat my chest...

This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest....

David

George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message

news:ukquku1afe7b2a@corp.supernews.com...
> Well Congrads Dave!  you actually showed up.

> Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave.  I run a total of 8 laps in over 2
> years and this guy expects me to run 03's  hehe.

> Dave won the Glen race I was in.  Ran I think 4 laps practice needless to
> say not enough to get the feel of the track again.  After the start I
tried
> to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I tagged
one
> in the right rear.  Damaged susp and had to pit.  Couple laps later a guy
is
> sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he
> backs right into my path.  Oh well that Sim Racin :-(

> So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his.  Looking forward to
> interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)

> Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great?  only ran 1:04.38???  geez I
> was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty!

> George Sandman

> David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1028485544.82634.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > George noone cares mate :)

> > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > news:ukqrrj1gpi867a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > David,

> > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O

> > > Shame on me.  I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some
> > kind
> > > of records.

> > > You just crack me up.

> > > Get on the track dickhead!

> > > The Sandman is Back!

> > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ukqrcrjpave9c4@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > To Benchracer Dave,

> > > > No that was low 20's  and you must have spies out cause your too
> chicken
> > > to
> > > > join in yourself.  Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin
> > alittle
> > > > Dave?   Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and
> > > finish
> > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's!  I know
> its
> > > slow
> > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.

> > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you!

> > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back
> > into
> > > it
> > > > and you can beat on yer chest.

> > > > Or will you ever race?  Guess I will just have to wait for you to
join
> > > > something and I follow?

> > > > Talk on the Track you idiot!

> > > > George

> > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:1028481635.31918.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to
> me,
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old
has
> > > been
> > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....

> > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off
> my
> > > > > Hyperstim to show you up.

> > > > > David

> > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1028481269.31376.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)

> > > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:ukqnlq9i0i7b6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching
> some
> > > old
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS?  Daves spellin as usual :-)

> > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back
is
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > > > chance he has of beating me!

> > > > > > > George

> > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this
> > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly...

> > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super
commited,
> > has
> > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level
of
> > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long
time
> > to
> > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything
I
> > > could
> > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the
> > > > fastest,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has.

> > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001
times,
> > > quick
> > > > > > > reliable
> > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.

> > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.

> > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off
> > properly
> > > in
> > > > > > 2000.

> > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.

> > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over
> impressed
> > > > with
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > saw.

> > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate
> > > > champion,
> > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online
> > early
> > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in
> every
> > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.

> > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then
> > seemed
> > > to
> > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.

> > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find
the
> > > speed
> > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer,
> > stuck
> > > > with
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.

> > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as
with
> > Geo
> > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor
> > sadly
> > > > for
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL
> > > played
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.

> > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO?

> > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly
> > quick,
> > > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > run an F2 league now.

> > > > > > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing
maybe
> > only
> > > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in
the
> > big
> > > > > times
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > GPL.

> > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee,
> > Wintrip,
> > > > > > > Marante,
> > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden,
Schmidt,
> > > > > Reinhold,
> > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,
> Kleman
> > > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i
forgot.
> > You
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my
list
> of
> > > > > > respected
> > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were
> > > virually
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times
> of
> > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for
> > > > themselves...But
> > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > > all part of the game...

> > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on
> the
> > > > > scene,
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done
to
> > its
> > > > > > demise,
> > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been
> > > hanging
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)

> > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better
than
> > > > George
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in
> competition
> > > > > playing
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and
in
> my
> > > GPL
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2
races
> > Geo
> > > > > hasnt
> > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot
of
> > > others
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its
finest
> > you
> > > > dont
> > > > > > > > figure in the equation.

> > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that
it
> > was
> > > > when
> > > > > i

...

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David Powel

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by David Powel » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:21:09

Im agruing with Geo, he replies hense he is listening :) you keep coming
back here after youve marked as read cause your curious....

Dont come back then :) this is mine and Georges stag fighting thread....you
come here by free will....this arguement has been running for 2weeks and
still your reading and commenting, your making the choice to read here, so
your making the decision to read and waste your time, not me....

If you dont want to read this thread, dont ***y read it :)

David



> <another snippage>

> The worst here is that you actually think we care here on r.a.s. about
that.
> Most of us will "Mark this thread as read" after a couple of egoistical
> posts from yours.  I mean we have better time to spend then reading your
> dribble over something we don't care!

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

George Sandma

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by George Sandma » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:22:13

Geez dave only took me 4 more laps to get into the 04's  Give me a day!

well I ran 12 laps in 2 years and ran 1:04.9 and you ran 17 laps in one
month and ran 1:04.38   hmmm

yeah  your good!

George

Not going away David,  I just got Back!

David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message

news:1028488399.505.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your
just
> an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the first
> laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and
you
> were fucking terrible.

> As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as to
> me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending
more
> time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id
beat
> McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im sure
id
> beat my chest...

> This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest....

> David

> George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:ukquku1afe7b2a@corp.supernews.com...
> > Well Congrads Dave!  you actually showed up.

> > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave.  I run a total of 8 laps in over 2
> > years and this guy expects me to run 03's  hehe.

> > Dave won the Glen race I was in.  Ran I think 4 laps practice needless
to
> > say not enough to get the feel of the track again.  After the start I
> tried
> > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I tagged
> one
> > in the right rear.  Damaged susp and had to pit.  Couple laps later a
guy
> is
> > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he
> > backs right into my path.  Oh well that Sim Racin :-(

> > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his.  Looking forward
to
> > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)

> > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great?  only ran 1:04.38???  geez
I
> > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty!

> > George Sandman

> > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:1028485544.82634.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > > George noone cares mate :)

> > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ukqrrj1gpi867a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > David,

> > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O

> > > > Shame on me.  I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set
some
> > > kind
> > > > of records.

> > > > You just crack me up.

> > > > Get on the track dickhead!

> > > > The Sandman is Back!

> > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ukqrcrjpave9c4@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > To Benchracer Dave,

> > > > > No that was low 20's  and you must have spies out cause your too
> > chicken
> > > > to
> > > > > join in yourself.  Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin
> > > alittle
> > > > > Dave?   Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya
and
> > > > finish
> > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's!  I
know
> > its
> > > > slow
> > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.

> > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you!

> > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting
back
> > > into
> > > > it
> > > > > and you can beat on yer chest.

> > > > > Or will you ever race?  Guess I will just have to wait for you to
> join
> > > > > something and I follow?

> > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot!

> > > > > George

> > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1028481635.31918.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter
to
> > me,
> > > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old
> has
> > > > been
> > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....

> > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust
off
> > my
> > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up.

> > > > > > David

> > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1028481269.31376.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)

> > > > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:ukqnlq9i0i7b6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching
> > some
> > > > old
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS?  Daves spellin as usual :-)

> > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back
> is
> > > the
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me!

> > > > > > > > George

> > > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this
> > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
> > > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly...

> > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super
> commited,
> > > has
> > > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level
> of
> > > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long
> time
> > > to
> > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels
anything
> I
> > > > could
> > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be
the
> > > > > fastest,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has.

> > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001
> times,
> > > > quick
> > > > > > > > reliable
> > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.

> > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.

> > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off
> > > properly
> > > > in
> > > > > > > 2000.

> > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.

> > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over
> > impressed
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > saw.

> > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the
consumate
> > > > > champion,
> > > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL
online
> > > early
> > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in
> > every
> > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.

> > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then
> > > seemed
> > > > to
> > > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.

> > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find
> the
> > > > speed
> > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good
racer,
> > > stuck
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.

> > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as
> with
> > > Geo
> > > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak,
therefor
> > > sadly
> > > > > for
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of
GPL
> > > > played
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.

> > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO?

> > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not
overly
> > > quick,
> > > > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now.

> > > > > > > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing
> maybe
> > > only
> > > > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in
> the
> > > big
> > > > > > times
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > GPL.

> > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee,
> > > Wintrip,
> > > > > > > > Marante,
> > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden,
> Schmidt,
> > > > > > Reinhold,
> > > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,
> > Kleman
> > > > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i
> forgot.
> > > You
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my
> list
> > of
> > > > > > > respected
> > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there
were
> > > > virually
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high
times
> > of
> > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for
> > > > > themselves...But
> > > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > > > all part of the game...

> > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got
on
> > the
> > > > > > scene,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it
done
> to
> > > its
> > > > > > > demise,
> > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its
been
> > > > hanging

...

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David Powel

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by David Powel » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:31:49

Welcome back Geo...

Im sure youll find it boring as hell thesedays, noone plays now apart from
noobs....Even SRM conked out last week as they couldnt fill a server...

I wouldnt bother personally....I do a race a month to release im bored of it
and resign my PC back to a desk, which is exactly what ill do now again for
another month...

Cy in RL

Asta Luego!

David

George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message

news:ukqvmjhlg7e131@corp.supernews.com...
> Geez dave only took me 4 more laps to get into the 04's  Give me a day!

> well I ran 12 laps in 2 years and ran 1:04.9 and you ran 17 laps in one
> month and ran 1:04.38   hmmm

> yeah  your good!

> George

> Not going away David,  I just got Back!

> David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1028488399.505.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your
> just
> > an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the
first
> > laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and
> you
> > were fucking terrible.

> > As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as
to
> > me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending
> more
> > time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id
> beat
> > McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im
sure
> id
> > beat my chest...

> > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest....

> > David

> > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > news:ukquku1afe7b2a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Well Congrads Dave!  you actually showed up.

> > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave.  I run a total of 8 laps in over
2
> > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's  hehe.

> > > Dave won the Glen race I was in.  Ran I think 4 laps practice needless
> to
> > > say not enough to get the feel of the track again.  After the start I
> > tried
> > > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I
tagged
> > one
> > > in the right rear.  Damaged susp and had to pit.  Couple laps later a
> guy
> > is
> > > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and
he
> > > backs right into my path.  Oh well that Sim Racin :-(

> > > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his.  Looking
forward
> to
> > > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)

> > > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great?  only ran 1:04.38???
geez
> I
> > > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty!

> > > George Sandman

> > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:1028485544.82634.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > > > George noone cares mate :)

> > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ukqrrj1gpi867a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > David,

> > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O

> > > > > Shame on me.  I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set
> some
> > > > kind
> > > > > of records.

> > > > > You just crack me up.

> > > > > Get on the track dickhead!

> > > > > The Sandman is Back!

> > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ukqrcrjpave9c4@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > To Benchracer Dave,

> > > > > > No that was low 20's  and you must have spies out cause your too
> > > chicken
> > > > > to
> > > > > > join in yourself.  Been sitting there in VROC doing what?
strokin
> > > > alittle
> > > > > > Dave?   Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya
> and
> > > > > finish
> > > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's!  I
> know
> > > its
> > > > > slow
> > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.

> > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you!

> > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting
> back
> > > > into
> > > > > it
> > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest.

> > > > > > Or will you ever race?  Guess I will just have to wait for you
to
> > join
> > > > > > something and I follow?

> > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot!

> > > > > > George

> > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1028481635.31918.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that
matter
> to
> > > me,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some
old
> > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....

> > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust
> off
> > > my
> > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up.

> > > > > > > David

> > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:1028481269.31376.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)

> > > > > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > news:ukqnlq9i0i7b6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying
teaching
> > > some
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS?  Daves spellin as usual :-)

> > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day
back
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me!

> > > > > > > > > George

> > > > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this
> > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
> > > > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly...

> > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super
> > commited,
> > > > has
> > > > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best
level
> > of
> > > > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a
long
> > time
> > > > to
> > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels
> anything
> > I
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be
> the
> > > > > > fastest,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he
has.

> > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001
> > times,
> > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > > reliable
> > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.

> > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.

> > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off
> > > > properly
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 2000.

> > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.

> > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over
> > > impressed
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > > saw.

> > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the
> consumate
> > > > > > champion,
> > > > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL
> online
> > > > early
> > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL
in
> > > every
> > > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.

> > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but
then
> > > > seemed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.

> > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to
find
> > the
> > > > > speed
> > > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good
> racer,
> > > > stuck
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.

> > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but
as
> > with
> > > > Geo
> > > > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak,
> therefor
> > > > sadly
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of
> GPL
> > > > > played
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.

> > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO?

> > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not
> overly
> > > > quick,
> > > > > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now.

> > > > > > > > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing
> > maybe
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured
in
> > the
> > > > big
> > > > > > > times
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > GPL.

> > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal,
Mee,
> > > > Wintrip,
> > > > > > > > > Marante,
> > > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden,
> > Schmidt,
> > > > > > > Reinhold,

...

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David Powel

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by David Powel » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:39:47

Also this thread now appears to have dropped to a level of slap and tickle
playground childs banter thats below the standard of whats required for a
fun and bloody deathmatch, its more turning move like a gay boys cat
fight...

The old clutching at straws phrase fits this bill....

On that note I shall refrain from lowering my myself to the level George is
comfortable with ..

P.S VROC is mainly used as a portal for playing Operation Flashpoint
thesedays, you got a copy? i'd love to stick my M16 up your ......

David

George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message

news:ukqvmjhlg7e131@corp.supernews.com...
> Geez dave only took me 4 more laps to get into the 04's  Give me a day!

> well I ran 12 laps in 2 years and ran 1:04.9 and you ran 17 laps in one
> month and ran 1:04.38   hmmm

> yeah  your good!

> George

> Not going away David,  I just got Back!

> David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1028488399.505.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your
> just
> > an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the
first
> > laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and
> you
> > were fucking terrible.

> > As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as
to
> > me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending
> more
> > time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id
> beat
> > McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im
sure
> id
> > beat my chest...

> > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest....

> > David

> > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > news:ukquku1afe7b2a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Well Congrads Dave!  you actually showed up.

> > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave.  I run a total of 8 laps in over
2
> > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's  hehe.

> > > Dave won the Glen race I was in.  Ran I think 4 laps practice needless
> to
> > > say not enough to get the feel of the track again.  After the start I
> > tried
> > > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I
tagged
> > one
> > > in the right rear.  Damaged susp and had to pit.  Couple laps later a
> guy
> > is
> > > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and
he
> > > backs right into my path.  Oh well that Sim Racin :-(

> > > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his.  Looking
forward
> to
> > > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)

> > > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great?  only ran 1:04.38???
geez
> I
> > > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty!

> > > George Sandman

> > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:1028485544.82634.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> > > > George noone cares mate :)

> > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ukqrrj1gpi867a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > David,

> > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O

> > > > > Shame on me.  I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set
> some
> > > > kind
> > > > > of records.

> > > > > You just crack me up.

> > > > > Get on the track dickhead!

> > > > > The Sandman is Back!

> > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ukqrcrjpave9c4@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > To Benchracer Dave,

> > > > > > No that was low 20's  and you must have spies out cause your too
> > > chicken
> > > > > to
> > > > > > join in yourself.  Been sitting there in VROC doing what?
strokin
> > > > alittle
> > > > > > Dave?   Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya
> and
> > > > > finish
> > > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's!  I
> know
> > > its
> > > > > slow
> > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.

> > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you!

> > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting
> back
> > > > into
> > > > > it
> > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest.

> > > > > > Or will you ever race?  Guess I will just have to wait for you
to
> > join
> > > > > > something and I follow?

> > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot!

> > > > > > George

> > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1028481635.31918.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that
matter
> to
> > > me,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some
old
> > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....

> > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust
> off
> > > my
> > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up.

> > > > > > > David

> > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:1028481269.31376.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)

> > > > > > > > George Sandman <gsandmannos...@speakeasy.net> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > news:ukqnlq9i0i7b6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying
teaching
> > > some
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS?  Daves spellin as usual :-)

> > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day
back
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me!

> > > > > > > > > George

> > > > > > > > > David Powell <davidpow...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:1028479389.28372.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this
> > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
> > > > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly...

> > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super
> > commited,
> > > > has
> > > > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best
level
> > of
> > > > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a
long
> > time
> > > > to
> > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels
> anything
> > I
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be
> the
> > > > > > fastest,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he
has.

> > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001
> > times,
> > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > > reliable
> > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.

> > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.

> > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off
> > > > properly
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 2000.

> > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.

> > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over
> > > impressed
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > > saw.

> > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the
> consumate
> > > > > > champion,
> > > > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL
> online
> > > > early
> > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL
in
> > > every
> > > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.

> > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but
then
> > > > seemed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.

> > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to
find
> > the
> > > > > speed
> > > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good
> racer,
> > > > stuck
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.

> > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but
as
> > with
> > > > Geo
> > > > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak,
> therefor
> > > > sadly
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of
> GPL
> > > > > played
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.

> > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO?

> > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not
> overly
> > > > quick,
> > > > > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now.

> > > > > > > > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing
> > maybe
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured
in
> > the
> > > > big
> > > > > > > times
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > GPL.

> > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal,
Mee,
> > > > Wintrip,

...

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Mikkel Gram-Hanse

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:52:43


[HUUUUUGE MEGASNIP OF POINTLESS STUFF]

David give it a rest, you are coming across as more and more of a madman....
Why are you so obsessed with this ??

Mikkel

Mikkel Gram-Hanse

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 04:55:34



> <snippage>

> Your ego has taken control of your body.

ALL YOUR EGO ARE BELONG TO POWELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David Powel

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by David Powel » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 05:15:04

Remember I was slagging off Pabsts ideas then George funnily after never
being seen in GPL or RAS for month if not years, appears on the scene like a
*** having smelt *** and wrote this terade of rubbish...

QUOTE:
Mr. David Powell, Excuse me while I ROFLMAO. ok, I will try to get this out
before I bust a gut. Top .05% of all GPLer's? If you consider the people
that stopped racing GPL over the last few years that percentage would
increase drastically. You are fast now as it seems you have been putting in
some serious Sim Racing over the years, BUT I do remember when you were at
the back of the pack! I would hope after running the Sim so long that you
would be fast by now. And funniest thing of all. You said" Only takes me
10laps to learn a track anyway" hehehe is this the same guy that said "i
played GPL for 6months offline before i came online, and caused problems for
the AI not humans players.." 6 months offline? (hmmm dont know how to
indicate a very confused look :-) The Top Drivers in GPL that I know were on
the track the day they got GPL and were not causing any problems for human
players. You must be very confused... or, is it that you are jealous of Tom?
He happens to be the most Hard Core Realistic Sim Racer I know! I try to be
very realistic but don't even come close to Tom. See we try to lift while
shifting, and Tom (MR. Realistic) uses a clutch for every shift. He uses
right foot braking using the Heel and Toe technique while wearing a helmet,
gloves and driving shoes and strapped in with a full harness. Try that and
we will see how fast you really are. Tom wouldn't think of using a small
diameter wheel or paddle shifters for a Nascar Sim. And the sound and
vibration simulated, Man you are not only deaf but you vibrate for the next
couple hours after getting out of his Simulator. and to top that off his
Gas/Elect bill must be outrageous trying to keep it around 115 degrees
around his simulator (j/k about that one) You must excuse Tom. You see he
isn't going to run and post super fantastic hotlaps because he drives the
Sims as if they were real racecars and there is no way in hell that he is
gonna resort to the style of driving that you use to run fastlaps. Now, as
for running the track backwards. I watched at Sears point (when Tom had set
up his Simulator in the Drivers Lounge) as a line formed of NASA race
drivers wanting to sit in the Sim and run Sears Point backwards, and all I
remember hearing was WOW! Guess what David? I have also watched drivers at
Laguna Seca walk the track, well they actually drove to each corner and got
out. They viewed the track forwards, backwards sideways . they look for
cracks, spots anything for reference for braking points, turn-in points,
exit points, elevation changes and so on. Now maybe not all the veteran
drives do this all the time but I bet most have done it in their earlier
racing days and will do it if driving on a new track. So you go on and keep
knocking Tom for trying to help us with some info from real racing
experiences. David, if you don't like his suggestions then don't try them,
but please let other drivers make up their own minds if they want to try
them. Do you really think it wastes alot of time running a few laps
backwards on a track? Even I can find time in a limited schedule to run a
few laps backwards if I so choose. So David, If you are up to the challange,
I will see you (if you dare, no 6 months this time) on the track the day WRL
comes out and we will see who learns the track faster! :-O George Sandman
where in the heck did I put that flame suit?
UNQUOTE..

Last line is a good one, he came here for this, and hes getting it...hes
quite happy to fight with me, and im happy to entertain him in return...

The flames are still burning but I feel Geos suit is nearly expired, once it
has i shall leave....

David




> [HUUUUUGE MEGASNIP OF POINTLESS STUFF]

> David give it a rest, you are coming across as more and more of a
madman....
> Why are you so obsessed with this ??

> Mikkel

ymenar

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by ymenar » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 05:24:51


> you keep coming back here after youve marked as read cause your

curious....

Why do you ASSume I've marked this thread as read?  Can you read?

This is MY place, my newsgroup.  I can do whatever I want here, it's my
home.  Don't***on my house, or you'll get every ***y people in that
house against you.  Oh wait, you've already did.  Try to show me 1 single
person that is on your side here.  Please slap yourself and come back to
reality, and see that everybody here is against you.  Oh wait, we must all
be ignorants that can't face the truth and are alienated by something only
you can see?

Look, it's ***y obvious you are doing this so that you get some attention.
Or else, you wouldn't be posting this in a public area of the Internet, this
newsgroup.  You had the clear intention of having everybody else to read
this, and that's why it's pathetic.  You have a lack of self-esteem (you'll
deny that but it's evident).

You are not better, or worse, if you can do faster or slower hotlaps then
another person.  Whatever somebody chickened out, stopped racing, started
racing after, started racing before, stopped racing after, stopped racing in
the middle, or whatever, it's not important.  There is no official
competition, your life won't be more truly because you can ***ing lap a
track of a simulation of a real life motorsport year in Formula One a couple
of fraction of a seconds faster then another person.  We are all equal in
the end, no?

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Mitch_

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by Mitch_ » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 05:37:29

No matter the actual outcome of the race, at least they did race :}  That
shows that racing is what's really  important here, not ego size.

Mitch





> > <snippage>

> > Your ego has taken control of your body.

> ALL YOUR EGO ARE BELONG TO POWELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Powel

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by David Powel » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 05:48:26

George is reading this and why im here...he posted this ***ing thread
addressed to me...wake up



> > you keep coming back here after youve marked as read cause your
> curious....

> Why do you ASSume I've marked this thread as read?  Can you read?

> > Dont come back then :) this is mine and Georges stag fighting thread

> This is MY place, my newsgroup.  I can do whatever I want here, it's my
> home.  Don't***on my house, or you'll get every ***y people in that
> house against you.  Oh wait, you've already did.  Try to show me 1 single
> person that is on your side here.  Please slap yourself and come back to
> reality, and see that everybody here is against you.  Oh wait, we must all
> be ignorants that can't face the truth and are alienated by something only
> you can see?

> > If you dont want to read this thread, dont ***y read it :)

> Look, it's ***y obvious you are doing this so that you get some
attention.
> Or else, you wouldn't be posting this in a public area of the Internet,
this
> newsgroup.  You had the clear intention of having everybody else to read
> this, and that's why it's pathetic.  You have a lack of self-esteem
(you'll
> deny that but it's evident).

> You are not better, or worse, if you can do faster or slower hotlaps then
> another person.  Whatever somebody chickened out, stopped racing, started
> racing after, started racing before, stopped racing after, stopped racing
in
> the middle, or whatever, it's not important.  There is no official
> competition, your life won't be more truly because you can ***ing lap a
> track of a simulation of a real life motorsport year in Formula One a
couple
> of fraction of a seconds faster then another person.  We are all equal in
> the end, no?

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenar

to David Powell ( Best buddy to all in RAS :-)

by ymenar » Tue, 06 Aug 2002 05:54:28


> George is reading this and why im here...he posted this ***ing thread
> addressed to me...wake up

So?

Anyway, since you've obviously did not counter-argument anything in my post,
it's because of it's truth.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...


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