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RASCAR/Las Vegas

Brian Oste

RASCAR/Las Vegas

by Brian Oste » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 23:26:30





>> >The only oval track I can think of that I shift at on purpose (with the
>> >fast setup) are Martinsville and Indy.  There may be one or two others
>> >but I honestly can't remember which ones.

>> Mart & Indy??? The ONLY oval I shift at is Pocono.  I suppose that you
>> could increase lap times in some of the other ovals by shifting with
>> auto-clutch on since you don't even need to lift.  However, in real
>> life shifting is not an advantage, otherwise the real guys would be
>> doing it.

>I don't shift at Pocono at all (with the fast setup).  It worked out
>well in the last Pocono race for me.  I only needed one pitstop when
>everyone else needed two - fuel mileage and tire management won the day
>for me.

With the Papy fast setups I think that is starting to become the
winning strategy every week.  If you can take care of the RF better
than everyone else you have the best shot at winning.

Guess I'll have to try it.  I haven't run the fast setup at Marty but
my setups all require quite a bit of throttle control.  If I was in
3rd I would spin out for sure.  I wonder if any of the real Winstion
Cup drivers shift anywhere else besides Pocono?

Brian Oster

John Pancoas

RASCAR/Las Vegas

by John Pancoas » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 23:36:29






> >> >The only oval track I can think of that I shift at on purpose (with
the
> >> >fast setup) are Martinsville and Indy.  There may be one or two others
> >> >but I honestly can't remember which ones.

> >> Mart & Indy??? The ONLY oval I shift at is Pocono.  I suppose that you
> >> could increase lap times in some of the other ovals by shifting with
> >> auto-clutch on since you don't even need to lift.  However, in real
> >> life shifting is not an advantage, otherwise the real guys would be
> >> doing it.

> >I don't shift at Pocono at all (with the fast setup).  It worked out
> >well in the last Pocono race for me.  I only needed one pitstop when
> >everyone else needed two - fuel mileage and tire management won the day
> >for me.

> With the Papy fast setups I think that is starting to become the
> winning strategy every week.  If you can take care of the RF better
> than everyone else you have the best shot at winning.

> >Marty needs the downshift, and so does Indy (for me with the fast
> >setup).

> Guess I'll have to try it.  I haven't run the fast setup at Marty but
> my setups all require quite a bit of throttle control.  If I was in
> 3rd I would spin out for sure.  I wonder if any of the real Winstion
> Cup drivers shift anywhere else besides Pocono?

> Brian Oster

  Only place the big boys shift is at Pocono and the road courses.

John

John Simmon

RASCAR/Las Vegas

by John Simmon » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 23:32:39




> With the Papy fast setups I think that is starting to become the
> winning strategy every week.  If you can take care of the RF better
> than everyone else you have the best shot at winning.

> >Marty needs the downshift, and so does Indy (for me with the fast
> >setup).

> Guess I'll have to try it.  I haven't run the fast setup at Marty but
> my setups all require quite a bit of throttle control.  If I was in
> 3rd I would spin out for sure.  I wonder if any of the real Winstion
> Cup drivers shift anywhere else besides Pocono?

My lap times improved when I stopped shifting at some of the tracks. I
used to shift at Bristol (nascar racing 2) until I discovered that the
car acts better when I don't shift.

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jason moy

RASCAR/Las Vegas

by jason moy » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 01:30:20


That's debatable. :)

$500 in the last 2 years, $700 since 1995.

By comparison, while you guys were off running at Vegas yesterday, I
was spending $60 on a decent dinner for my woman.

Jason

Phaso

RASCAR/Las Vegas

by Phaso » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 13:36:04

Hi guys,

Let me start off by saying that after reviewing the race several times, I
agree that compared to most of the rest of you,  I was not leaving as much
room for error when being overtaken.  That said, I'd like to point out
several points in my defence (this all came about on lap 84, restarting from
yellow, I was in the lead on older tires, guys behind me had newer tires):
-I have not run any other races this year other than 3 RASCAR races (no
time).  I came 4th at both Pocono and Sears Point and ran very
convervatively.  I was extremely happy to just finish those races and felt I
drove clean  and consistently.  Nobody had complained about my conduct at
that time.  I felt I could push a bit  now that I had those races under my
belt.
-I had never turned a lap at Vegas prior to Friday night, at which time I
practiced for several hours, most of which was running in traffic against
the AI
-I was second in the half-hour warmup with a time of 32.925.  I felt that I
was a fairly fast driver in comparison to the field.
-I did not cause a single caution.  I got nerfed once by the 7 car (see John
Simmons' race recap) but from my replay, it looked like he warped into me
and it was not his fault.
-taking the green at lap 84 in the lead, I knew I would be passed several
times by the end of the race.  I figured I had a 5th-10th placed car.
-I was very surprised how fast the 27 car came up behind me in the first
turn.  I got out of the way at the exit of the turn as quick as I could and
ran the outside of the corners for 2 laps, allowing 6 cars to go by without
incident.
-on lap 86, the 98 car was about two carlengths behind me.  We went into T1
and he didn't make a move to the inside to show he wanted to pass, so I took
the inside line.  I guess I misjudged the closure rate, because in the
middle of T1 he suddenly came up behind me and braked hard to avoid
rear-ending me.  It happened too fast for me to do anything about it.
-this incident caused the field behind me to slow down.  I ran the racing
line for two laps until they caught me again.  I guess the incident had
spooked the field that I wasn't going to give the inside line, and started
to try and pass me on the outside.  That caught me totally by surprise and I
ran several laps in the middle of the track in fear, which I imagine would
cause other drivers to think I was blocking or holding them up
intentionally.

In short, it looks like my inexperience of running in multiplayer traffic at
Vegas ruffled some feathers.  It surprises me a bit because RAS is basically
open to anyone, and I think there will be drivers making a lot more mistakes
than myself!  Suggestions on how to better handle situations like this much
appreciated!  It was a really fun race.

Thanks,
    -Phasor

Nick

RASCAR/Las Vegas

by Nick » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 02:26:53


I can vouch for that, as I was about 5th or 6th and I remember thinking to
myself that the #8 car was heading backwards real quick :-) I thought you
were being very considerate, by not cutting down to the lower groove and
trying to stay at the absolute front of the field. Can't say anything about
what happened after that though...


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