rec.autos.simulators

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

ZP

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

by ZP » Wed, 16 Apr 2003 18:21:12

Is the new Barton a preferable solution for race simulators ?
Could the 512 kb of L2 cache be a potential benefit for this kind of
applications or the higher MHz of the "old" version is more appropriate?
GBB

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

by GBB » Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:03:33

It depends how much cash you have, the barton's cashe does make a difference
but not enough to justify the price difference for me, certain batches of
XP1700 thoroughbreds are hitting 2.4Ghz+ for less than 50.


ZP

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

by ZP » Thu, 17 Apr 2003 00:21:47

So we must consider the MHz rather than the CPU architecture ?



> It depends how much cash you have, the barton's cashe does make a
difference
> but not enough to justify the price difference for me, certain batches of
> XP1700 thoroughbreds are hitting 2.4Ghz+ for less than 50.



> > Is the new Barton a preferable solution for race simulators ?
> > Could the 512 kb of L2 cache be a potential benefit for this kind of
> > applications or the higher MHz of the "old" version is more appropriate?

Dave Henri

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 17 Apr 2003 00:36:30


> So we must consider the MHz rather than the CPU architecture ?



>> It depends how much cash you have, the barton's cashe does make a
> difference
>> but not enough to justify the price difference for me, certain
>> batches of XP1700 thoroughbreds are hitting 2.4Ghz+ for less than
>> 50.



>> > Is the new Barton a preferable solution for race simulators ?
>> > Could the 512 kb of L2 cache be a potential benefit for this kind
>> > of applications or the higher MHz of the "old" version is more
>> > appropriate?

   The tests I have seen, shows the Barton, even with a slower clock speed,
to be faster than the previous top AMD chip.  Whether it's fast enough to
justify a large price gap compared to other Athlons remains to be seen.
   Certainly if you can afford either chip, you are NOT going to have a bad  
system.  Either one is very very strong.(as are the top Pentium 4's btw)

dave henrie

Roger Squire

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

by Roger Squire » Thu, 17 Apr 2003 04:46:36

I am presently building an athlon system myself.  I was careful to choose a
motherboard (Abit nf7 v2.0) that officially supports 200fsb and to buy
DDR433 memory, as well as a water-cooling setup.  The cpu is a 1700+ of a
particular stepping that is a relabelled 2600+.

My recommendation is to pay attention not only to the cpu speed itself but
the components around it (mobo + ram + cooling + psu), which will allow you
to gain free speed with some simple bios settings, in particular newer
motherboards that officially support 200fsb.

As for Barton vs. XP, there has just been a major price-drop on Bartons, and
the 2500+ Barton is a bargain at $125 or so.

rms

Doug Hoo

Barton or Athlon XP for the simmers?

by Doug Hoo » Fri, 18 Apr 2003 08:44:02

I just built a new system (specs at bottom of the post ) and I love my
Barton. It was tax refund money so I had a little more than usual to play
with so the Barton was attainable for me this time. Runs everything great .
Most games run at 1280x1024 32 bit 4x aa 16x ansio without any problems. I
highly recommend a Barton if you can afford a LITTLE more.

A7N8X Deluxe (nForce 2)
AMD Barton 2800 (not oc'ed--it's plenty fast at it's stock speed of 2.08ghz)
1 Gig Gorilla PC 3200 (DDR 400) ---2 x 512
WD 80 Gig se (8 meg cache)
Radeon 9700 pro (an unbelieveable step up from my GF2 GTS 64 Meg)



> > So we must consider the MHz rather than the CPU architecture ?



> >> It depends how much cash you have, the barton's cashe does make a
> > difference
> >> but not enough to justify the price difference for me, certain
> >> batches of XP1700 thoroughbreds are hitting 2.4Ghz+ for less than
> >> 50.



> >> > Is the new Barton a preferable solution for race simulators ?
> >> > Could the 512 kb of L2 cache be a potential benefit for this kind
> >> > of applications or the higher MHz of the "old" version is more
> >> > appropriate?

>    The tests I have seen, shows the Barton, even with a slower clock
speed,
> to be faster than the previous top AMD chip.  Whether it's fast enough to
> justify a large price gap compared to other Athlons remains to be seen.
>    Certainly if you can afford either chip, you are NOT going to have a
bad
> system.  Either one is very very strong.(as are the top Pentium 4's btw)

> dave henrie


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