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Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

Pete

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Pete » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:31:50

    There has been quite a bit of discussion the last few days over
video card performance and noticed a good piece over at
Anandtech comparing the new mid range cards.
    They also have a test showing the FPS in F1 Challenge
that I thought might be of some use.

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    F1 Challenge

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Final results and conclusions.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

    Pete

Andre

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Andre » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:08:53



Its a bit strange they include higher end ATI cards and not the NVidia
5900. Not that it bothers me with a 9700 Pro :-)
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Larr

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:14:41

I _really_ want to upgrade my Ti4400, but you know what?  I still have a
hard time justifying it.

I'm still pulling 40-80fps in NR2003 with most options turned on high at
1280X1024X16 (the starts are sometimes down to 20 or so), and all of the
other games I play run with everything on just fine.

Now, this may all change if any of the upcomming DX9 games (half-life 2,
Carmack's stuff, etc...) catch my fancy, but for now it just doesn't matter.

I was very interested in the 9600 Pro AIW, but it's performance doesn't look
to be much over the Ti4400, and is worse in some cases.

-Larry


Larr

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:15:16

They may not have had one.

Apparantly, the 5900 isn't that impressive anyway.

-Larry




> >    There has been quite a bit of discussion the last few days over
> >video card performance and noticed a good piece over at
> >Anandtech comparing the new mid range cards.
> >    They also have a test showing the FPS in F1 Challenge
> >that I thought might be of some use.

> Its a bit strange they include higher end ATI cards and not the NVidia
> 5900. Not that it bothers me with a 9700 Pro :-)
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Andre

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Andre » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:11:33


>I _really_ want to upgrade my Ti4400, but you know what?  I still have a
>hard time justifying it.

>I'm still pulling 40-80fps in NR2003 with most options turned on high at
>1280X1024X16 (the starts are sometimes down to 20 or so), and all of the
>other games I play run with everything on just fine.

I went from a 4400 to a 9700 Pro and have been very happy with it,
mostly for allowing me to run smoothly with FSAA&AF.
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Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Joe M » Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:02:56

Apparently you've sipped the ATI kool aid. :)

ATI has done a great job but the 5900 Ultra is hardly unimpressive.  The
only negative press for nvidia is over DX9 pixel shading for Half-life and
other UNRELEASED shooters (meaningless issue to me since I play sims,
sports, rpg's and strategy games - all fine for my 5900U).  The 5900U is
perfect for my needs since it has no technical issues (FS2004 and Madden
2004 glitches for ATI to name a few) and - GASP - it actually outperforms
the high and mighty 9800 Pro in some simulation bench marks (like NR 2003
and IL2:FB - see the firingsquad review).  Hell, I'm running NHL 2004
1600x1200 with 4xFSAA - 8xANIS and it's a smooth 80-100 fps.  What the hell
more do I need?

The nvidia weaknesses are meaningless to my *** needs and by the time
pixel shader 2.0 is critical to games we'll all be using a GF FX2 6900's or
ATI 9900XT2 Pro. :)

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> They may not have had one.

> Apparantly, the 5900 isn't that impressive anyway.

> -Larry





> > >    There has been quite a bit of discussion the last few days over
> > >video card performance and noticed a good piece over at
> > >Anandtech comparing the new mid range cards.
> > >    They also have a test showing the FPS in F1 Challenge
> > >that I thought might be of some use.

> > Its a bit strange they include higher end ATI cards and not the NVidia
> > 5900. Not that it bothers me with a 9700 Pro :-)
> > --

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J.R.

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by J.R. » Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:43:33


What the heck is wrong?! My Ti4600 gets me a mediocre 12/13FPS!

J.R.

Richard S Becket

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Richard S Becket » Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:06:46

Under the F1C section, they state:

"We are still seeing the same jittery action with the NVIDIA cards that we
have noted in Parts 1 and 2, and the AA also falls a little short of what it
should be doing. As we have stated previously, these are known issues, and
they are being addressed."

Does anyone know any more about this? I read and re-read the whole thing,
but couldn't find what they meant by "As we have stated previously, these
are known issues, and they are being addressed."
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> >     There has been quite a bit of discussion the last few days over
> > video card performance and noticed a good piece over at
> > Anandtech comparing the new mid range cards.
> >     They also have a test showing the FPS in F1 Challenge
> > that I thought might be of some use.

> > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1904

> >     F1 Challenge

> > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1904&p=7

> > Final results and conclusions.

> > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1904&p=21

> >     Pete

> What the heck is wrong?! My Ti4600 gets me a mediocre 12/13FPS!

> J.R.

Kristin and Eric Brewe

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Kristin and Eric Brewe » Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:43:52

This was the 3rd in a series of 3 articles.  Go back to the main video
section to find the previous 2 articles.  I have not read them yet,
but am intrigued since I get a stutter in f12002 every 30 seconds or
so.
Eric
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:06:46 +0100, "Richard S Beckett"


>Under the F1C section, they state:

>"We are still seeing the same jittery action with the NVIDIA cards that we
>have noted in Parts 1 and 2, and the AA also falls a little short of what it
>should be doing. As we have stated previously, these are known issues, and
>they are being addressed."

>Does anyone know any more about this? I read and re-read the whole thing,
>but couldn't find what they meant by "As we have stated previously, these
>are known issues, and they are being addressed."

Larr

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Larr » Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:46:44

I don't sip anyone's cool-aid :)

nVidia says their 50 series drivers are going to fix all of this.  We'll
see...

Personally, at $400-$500 a pop, these cards should ALL be astonishing no
matter what we throw at them, without any room for issues.

Larry


> Apparently you've sipped the ATI kool aid. :)

> ATI has done a great job but the 5900 Ultra is hardly unimpressive.  The
> only negative press for nvidia is over DX9 pixel shading for Half-life and
> other UNRELEASED shooters (meaningless issue to me since I play sims,
> sports, rpg's and strategy games - all fine for my 5900U).  The 5900U is
> perfect for my needs since it has no technical issues (FS2004 and Madden
> 2004 glitches for ATI to name a few) and - GASP - it actually outperforms
> the high and mighty 9800 Pro in some simulation bench marks (like NR 2003
> and IL2:FB - see the firingsquad review).  Hell, I'm running NHL 2004
> 1600x1200 with 4xFSAA - 8xANIS and it's a smooth 80-100 fps.  What the
hell
> more do I need?

> The nvidia weaknesses are meaningless to my *** needs and by the time
> pixel shader 2.0 is critical to games we'll all be using a GF FX2 6900's
or
> ATI 9900XT2 Pro. :)

> --
> Joe M.



> > They may not have had one.

> > Apparantly, the 5900 isn't that impressive anyway.

> > -Larry





> > > >    There has been quite a bit of discussion the last few days over
> > > >video card performance and noticed a good piece over at
> > > >Anandtech comparing the new mid range cards.
> > > >    They also have a test showing the FPS in F1 Challenge
> > > >that I thought might be of some use.

> > > Its a bit strange they include higher end ATI cards and not the NVidia
> > > 5900. Not that it bothers me with a 9700 Pro :-)
> > > --

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> > > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
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Bamada

Verdict On Latest Mid Range Video Cards

by Bamada » Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:37:06

Sure wish I had used the same judgement. I lost my 40-80 fps by *upgrading*
Dan


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