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NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

Malc

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Malc » Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:24:00


You can make it easier to beat the ai by handicapping them.

For maximum points (assuming you win a race) run 3-lap pro races. It took me
about 4 hours to get the LX6.

Malc.

willempi

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by willempi » Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:50:17

Not from what i know, same with the cooper...that's been in since the
beginning...at least since i started playing it which is...
pfffff....from what i can remember a week or two after LFS was first
spotted on the web.
The supra, the GTO, all came  later but have all the setup bells and
whistles.
I think the roadcars are and will remain roadcars, "the cooper or 360
you get when you buy one"
Im really very very happy with that cause it means "true" driving
skill racing....and not setting the car up for ages or/and roaming the
web for setups...you just start it up, drive and measures yerself
against other drivers in exactly the same car...luvelu luvely luvely.

The "fixed setup for all drivers" is  something i miss in LFS. Looking
at the setups out there, some of which with truely weird
settings(guess the same goes for N2003), yet even the weird setups
which would never be used in real life because they would result in an
awefull car or rotten laptimes result in fast laptimes in the sims.

Physics modelling assside, with the 'no setup' situation with some
cars in netkar at least everyone drives the same thing, be it flawed
or not, and it does result in winners being very proud and loosers
excepting they need to practise more instead of going on the web again
in search of a better setup. An added bonus is that there's none of
the endless 'what are your camber settings...how much grill
tape...where can i get your setup' etc..etc questions in online
games:)

Maybe in the netkar future one of the race versions of the 360 will
get in there with all the setup options for the setup maniacs:)



Doug Elliso

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:46:33

The LX4 and LX6 are a lot of fun in LFS - I really didnt like the demo - the
cars are rubbish - but the 12 was well spent imho

Doug

Doug Elliso

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:47:46




> > Speaking of LFS, I agree, it does seem so similar to GPL, that I
purchased
> > the S1 last night to try out the other cars. I didn't realize that you
> still
> > have
> > to earn Many points to drive them, and I don't have that much time right
> > now. Is there a way around this, so that all the cars can be driven?

> You can make it easier to beat the ai by handicapping them.

Best thing to do - is load a RUBBISH setup - add a full AI field - the load
a normal setup and add yourself to the race.

The AI will race with the rubbish setup and thus are easilty beaten.

The short fern bay rally-x track at 5 laps is probably the quickest way to
earn

Doug

Robin Lor

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Robin Lor » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:11:43

Obsessed me?

Can't wait to go back there this sept. if they'll give me the time off work!

--
Cheers,

Robin

now playing: Janes ***ion - Just Because

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:00:36 +0100, "Robin Lord"

> >D/L and unzip this to the tracks folder:
> >http://www.racesimcentral.net/~matton/mg/nurburgring.zip

> >:)

> Yihaa! Now why am I not surprised that you are the first one to give
> me the url of the Nordschleife ;)

> Cheers,
> Andre

John Wallac

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by John Wallac » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:52:48

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:11:43 +0100, "Robin Lord"


>Obsessed me?

>Can't wait to go back there this sept. if they'll give me the time off work!

>--
>Cheers,

>Robin

>now playing: Janes ***ion - Just Because

Off topic, but if you like Strays, have you listened to "Ritual de lo
Habitual"? Excellent album, which I'd forgotten until I read your
sig....
Jon

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Jon » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:28:38



> >So it's rather amazing
> >a lot of people still feel GPL rules in the physics department...which
> >is rather silly if ya ask me...in 20 years time when we have an
> >absolute real time perfect driving sim people will still go 'but GPL
> >has better phisics'

> I can't think of anyone who doesn't agree that N2003's physics are way
> ahead than GPL's physics actually :)

........................and think the physics are not used at its full
potential
due to the genre ..but thats another story, kinda like having a full blown
race
car for running errands.
Tony Rickar

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Tony Rickar » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:29:08


> > I can't think of anyone who doesn't agree that N2003's physics are way
> > ahead than GPL's physics actually :)

> ..................and think the physics are not used at its full
> potential due to the genre ..but thats another story, kinda like
> having a full blown race car for running errands.

A shade harsh - I am sure the Nascar fans appreciate the physics and they
are being used to the full. However, for road facing fans like me, Nascars
simply look out of sorts on a road track in real life, so an accurate
simulation of what looks like driving a pig feels like one...

So for us the better physics model of N2003 counts for nothing.

Now an Aussie V8 weighs much the same as a Nascar but looks like it handles
more like a touring car. So how come a Nascar cannot be set up to handle
half decently on a road track - is it the limitations of the regs which
basically mean you are driving a car designed for high speed corners only?

Cheers
Tony

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A McEwe

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by A McEwe » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:56:05

Wouldn't you get that in real life (likey fatally) if you were to drive high
performance sports car on a tight club track for the first time without
concideration to physical consiquences?

Maybe they got it too right ;)

willempi

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by willempi » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:02:19

Can we have an amen!

>........................and think the physics are not used at its full
>potential
>due to the genre ..but thats another story, kinda like having a full blown
>race
>car for running errands.

Redmis

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Redmis » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:08:47

Sound's like you were expecting a retail package which would explain your
disappointment.  A car doesn't have to have any historic significance for me
to enjoy it - I'm not the sentimental type.  I'm just impressed by Netkar as
a technology demonstration as much as anything.  It's got top-notch physics,
a superb graphics engine (far better than GPL's) and very clever net code
(as good or better than Papy's)  and it's free.  Those who say it's the new
GPL aren't saying that it takes an arbitrary season of F1 and encapsulates
the feel of it better than GPL - they're just saying that it's moving the
sim racing genre into the future - much like GPL did back in 1998.
Carl Ribbegaard

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Carl Ribbegaard » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:44:08


<snip>

You mean it can't?
That's strange, i mean most guys are faster in WC cars than in the 67 cars
on the same tracks.
Of course the ***'s a lot better, but the handling ain't shabby either.

:)

Robin Lor

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Robin Lor » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:41:42

Yeah it does that in a couple of the high speed corners and spits you off if
you're not carefull
I can't find a ride height setting, but if you take some wing off it doesn't
push you into the ground so much. It's either that or you have to lift
slightly at a couple of points

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Cheers,

Robin

now playing: Thomas P. Heckmann - Phosphene

http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk

Robin Lor

NetKar really is the new GPL!!!

by Robin Lor » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:41:30


> Off topic, but if you like Strays, have you listened to "Ritual de lo
> Habitual"? Excellent album, which I'd forgotten until I read your
> sig....

Old classic! :)

Didn't even realise they were back together 'till I saw 'em on MTV2 the
other day!

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Cheers,

Robin

now playing: Fudge Tunnel - Grey

http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk


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