rec.autos.simulators

by **Steve Gran** » Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:00:00

I was wondering how much effect more RAM has on the framerates in ICR2 and NASCAR. I
have a P75 and 8 MB. If I upgrade the RAM to say 16 MB, will that have any effect on
the framerate, or are these games designed to use only a limited amount of RAM?

Thanks
Steve Grant

by **Eric T. Busc** » Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:00:00

> I was wondering how much effect more RAM has on the framerates in ICR2 and NASCAR. I
> have a P75 and 8 MB. If I upgrade the RAM to say 16 MB, will that have any effect on
> the framerate, or are these games designed to use only a limited amount of RAM?

The only thing the additional RAM will do is to give you longer replays. I would
still recommend upgrading to 16megs anyway for other performance gains (most
noticeable if you are running Win95).

--
Eric T. Busch

Emory University

by **Marko Hadjin** » Sat, 13 Apr 1996 04:00:00

I`ve done just like that,upgrade from 8-16 Mb ( Pentium too )and there
wasn`t any FPS improvement in ICR2.......

by **GAUNTL** » Sun, 14 Apr 1996 04:00:00

U only have to go to twelve really, and yes u will see a frame rate
advantage {if it is ram that is the weak link in your machine, your
video card could be....}

GAUNTLET

Life, the butchery

by **Mike Manthe** » Tue, 16 Apr 1996 04:00:00

I don't remember where I saw it, but I read that Nascar and Indycar II
both run in 8MB RAM. Additional RAM only adds to the length of your
replay.

Seems to me, it was the owners manual, but hey.... who reads those?
:=)
Mike

by **Eldred Picke** » Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:00:00

>Subject: Re: How much RAM for ICR2/NASCAR?
>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:15:17 -0600
>> I`ve done just like that,upgrade from 8-16 Mb ( Pentium too )and there
>> wasn`t any FPS improvement in ICR2.......
>I don't remember where I saw it, but I read that Nascar and Indycar II
>both run in 8MB RAM. Additional RAM only adds to the length of your
>replay.
>Seems to me, it was the owners manual, but hey.... who reads those?
>:=)
>Mike

Hey, reading the manual takes all the FUN out of it...<g>

I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?
Eldred Pickett

by **Eric Kos** » Thu, 18 Apr 1996 04:00:00

>> I was wondering how much effect more RAM has on the framerates in
ICR2 and NASCAR. I
>> have a P75 and 8 MB. If I upgrade the RAM to say 16 MB, will that
have any effect on
>> the framerate, or are these games designed to use only a limited
amount of RAM?

>The only thing the additional RAM will do is to give you longer
replays. I would
>still recommend upgrading to 16megs anyway for other performance gains
(most
>noticeable if you are running Win95).

>--
>Eric T. Busch

>Emory University

Not so!!! Increacing the amount of ram is the 2nd biggest
preformance increace you can give your machine. Everything happens
faster. For example I increaced from 16mb to 32mb and now can run with
all graphics full on with a minimum of 15fps with no jitters!

by **Michael E. Carv** » Thu, 18 Apr 1996 04:00:00

: Not so!!! Increacing the amount of ram is the 2nd biggest
: preformance increace you can give your machine. Everything happens
: faster. For example I increaced from 16mb to 32mb and now can run with
: all graphics full on with a minimum of 15fps with no jitters!

Just checking. . . Are your running these games in Pure DOS or via
Win95? There shouldn't be any performance increase in frame rate with
memory increases. By chance is any of the memory faster than your
original 16mb?

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by **J. Mark Piscitell** » Thu, 18 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Sounds like a controversy brewing

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J Mark Piscitelli

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by **RickGent** » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00

> Not so!!! Increacing the amount of ram is the 2nd biggest
>preformance increace you can give your machine. Everything happens
>faster. For example I increaced from 16mb to 32mb and now can run with
>all graphics full on with a minimum of 15fps with no jitters!

Unless your memory system gains performance through interleaving, adding
RAM produces no benefit to NASCAR or IndyCar II. The games run in a fixed
memory footprint; extra memory is only used for the replay. Trust me, I
know :-).

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Sierra On-Line, Inc.

by **Eric Kos** » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Sorry if i confused you. I just used the 16mb to 32mb as an example.
You really wont notice much preformance increace after about 12mb, but
increacing from 8 to 12 (or 16) made a big differance on my machine.
Although, yes I did spend big bucks on EDO fast page mode 15ns ram
chips, and im running the sim in dos mode. But I dont imagine that
that will produce any faster frame rates than standard 60ns ram chips.

by **Julian Lov** » Sat, 27 Apr 1996 04:00:00

> >The only thing the additional RAM will do is to give you longer
> replays. I would
> >still recommend upgrading to 16megs anyway for other performance gains
> (most
> >noticeable if you are running Win95).

> >--
> >Eric T. Busch

> >Emory University

> Not so!!! Increacing the amount of ram is the 2nd biggest
> preformance increace you can give your machine. Everything happens
> faster. For example I increaced from 16mb to 32mb and now can run with
> all graphics full on with a minimum of 15fps with no jitters!

Bollocks - extra RAM will NOT increase framerates in ICR2/Nascar. Once
over 8MB, the rest is just for storing replays. Even Rick Genter from
Papyrus has said this, and he coded the damn thing. Stop misleading
people if you do not know what you are talking about.

Julian
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University of Oxford