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Why Isn't N4 the "BEST" Sim Ever?

Thom j

Why Isn't N4 the "BEST" Sim Ever?

by Thom j » Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:48:28

Thank you, Wittle Sonny DGF...

| After reading all the posts, it sounds like my old theory still holds
true.
|
| For the most part, a bunch of old guys (in racing game years) simply
prefer
| the old cars and tracks over the new ones (attitudes towards current F1 by
| many of those same people back this up).
|
| David G Fisher

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Larr

Why Isn't N4 the "BEST" Sim Ever?

by Larr » Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:32:26

A weekend of online racing on Sierra will provide the answer.  It's a great
sim that unfortunately attracts the true low-life scum of the earth.

-Larry



Fred Georg

Why Isn't N4 the "BEST" Sim Ever?

by Fred Georg » Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:20:11

Scott,

          Depending on which type of racing you are a fan of, would explain
how one percieves each type of racing. The Nascar fan, gets his online fun
by racing side by side, and nose to tail. Thats what the white knuckle,
pulse pumping experience of Nascar is all about. The GPL fan will enjoy his
experience, as you put it, with the Grand Prix authenticity. I can see where
racing Nascar by the GPL standards would make for some rather ho-hum racing,
but, what if you had 5,6,7 or more GPL drivers, all running together nose to
tail for 50 laps??  Would get rather hair raising, Id say. <G>

          Every sim has its good and its bad points.  Although on-line N4
has its ups and downs, it will get better, and it will be an enjoyable
experience.

          AS for the server situation, OLR's free service, provides the
oppurtunity for people to randomly create races as TEN once did. N4 is now
available on their service.

          Realistic damage does not allow you to pit for 90 seconds and then
go out running with no problems. If you crash, you  most likely will be
running crippled, when you go out.  Moderate damage is where you get fixed
and run fine.

         I must say this, though, they have made N4 a real handful like GPL
is. <G>

--
Fred                -=BGMS=-              fgledfoot
Friday BGN League Administrator
Race Hard, Race Clean, Race Smart, Race For Fun!!


> For me, this is a loaded question, but I will give my take anyways.

> For me, N4 doesn't get any play time for one simple reason:   Online
Racing
> is lackluster.

> I think the primary problem in online racing with NASCAR style racing is
you
> spend a whole lot of time racing side by side, nose to tail, etc and the
> connection quality and collision detection has to be extremely strong.
With
> GPL, although of course you want the same, you can get away with a bit
more
> since you are not spending as much time side by side and in as close of
> contact as you are in 'stock car' racing.  Racing GPL allows for a more
> 'authentic' experience I think.

> That being said, For me, N4 online racing doesn't work for the following
> reasons:

> 1) Damage model is still lacking fairly badly
> 2) Dedicated server does not give you the ability to create races at will
on
> available servers (Owners should have this option)

> For Offline racers, there are also continuing issues with the AI and no
save
> race feature.   I don't race much offline, so this isn't really an issue
for
> me.

> The availability of quality servers is not really an issue.  There are
> numerous solid servers available to host races.  However, many of them
will
> sit there with no racing because nobody but the admin/bosses can
> create/change races or people have to just race what's there.  The typical
> races at Daytona, Dega, C***te, Michigan and the other cookie cutter
> tracks.  I won't even get into the issue of abusive and vindictive
> administrators or bosses.

> N4 has alot of strong features, and I really like the driving model
itself.
> However, take out certain aspects out of the 'racing' part (Like flipping
> and running into the wall, pull in pits and 90 seconds later you are
running
> without any problems), and it's just another 'game'.    It's sort of like
> HEAT.   HEAT had some great aspects.. but I certainly don't want to run
> online with no flags and only 15 cars.  How do you run a 'serious' league
> with no flags?   The other side is N4 where getting in a wreck does not
have
> many consequences and thus does not give enough penalty to influence safer
> racing.  Go gung ho... it won't hurt you that much.

> --
> Scott B. Husted
> PA-Scott
> ICQ# 4395450



> > It uses the GPL physics. Better graphics. Better multiplayer. More
> features.

> > It comes straight from GPL's womb.

> > Why do some of you continue to say that GPL is the best sim ever?

> > David G Fisher


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