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Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

Pez

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Pez » Sun, 04 Apr 2004 01:40:13

So guys, whos with me in thinking its harder to drive the roadies with the
900 wheel but easier to drive the roundy rounds with it?

one things for sure, going from a BRD wheel to an MSFF wheel to a Logitech
Driving Force Pro wheel with 900 degrees of rotation (but still using those
amazing BRD pedals, and im only talking about their old ones!) takes ALOT of
getting used to!

cool wheel.

pez

Steve Smit

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Steve Smit » Sun, 04 Apr 2004 01:54:23

Think of it the other way around.  My friend Michael, who is a whiz at
computer racing and RW motorbike racing (Ducati), tried his hand at Formula
Dodge.  He said the difference between RW and computer racing that's hardest
to get used to was how small the angular wheel movement is w. computer
racing.  It the RW, it takes great big fistfuls of lock to turn in, even w.
a twitchy single-seater.


Pez

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Pez » Sun, 04 Apr 2004 02:41:17

I found it to be a problem going from my BRD F1 Sim wheel to caterhams, the
wheel is almost the same size, yet the caterham wants gobs of lock!

the formula fords ive raced always seemed quite similar to the BRD wheel.

Ive suggested to BRD that they include a software controlled 'steering lock
limit' that can activate a lock 'lock' mechanism that limits rotation in
their new wheel depending on where a game wants it (iiuc its dictated by the
maximum degree angle that the front wheels can physically turn in the well
and the steering ratio, so you dont get more or less lock on the fronts
exaclty, its just the amount of turns on your steering wheel thats changed,
the speed of steering).

Now, to get the GTR people to talk to the BRD people about this kinda thing,
then we'd be in nirvana!

pez


> Think of it the other way around.  My friend Michael, who is a whiz at
> computer racing and RW motorbike racing (Ducati), tried his hand at
Formula
> Dodge.  He said the difference between RW and computer racing that's
hardest
> to get used to was how small the angular wheel movement is w. computer
> racing.  It the RW, it takes great big fistfuls of lock to turn in, even
w.
> a twitchy single-seater.



> > So guys, whos with me in thinking its harder to drive the roadies with
the
> > 900 wheel but easier to drive the roundy rounds with it?

> > one things for sure, going from a BRD wheel to an MSFF wheel to a
Logitech
> > Driving Force Pro wheel with 900 degrees of rotation (but still using
> those
> > amazing BRD pedals, and im only talking about their old ones!) takes
ALOT
> of
> > getting used to!

> > cool wheel.

> > pez

Ped Xin

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Ped Xin » Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:09:33



Maybe this is why I was demolished on my first kart outing by a mate who
I can blitz in sim racing.  Or maybe I'm just not any good.  But I was
taken aback by how physical it was.  I can't imagine what it must be like
for the real F1 drivers to fight the g-forces for 2 hours in the heat
(like Bahrain this weekend).

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Alan L

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Alan L » Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:59:06

I calibrate using ~450 degrees of lock for roadies and ~540 degrees for
ovals.  Then, I use the steering ratio in the setup to fine-tune the
response.  It'd be nice if the degrees of lock were adjustable.  Just
thought of something... wouldn't it be nice if SBDT designed GTR to work
well with the DFP?

Alan

Eldre

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Eldre » Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:37:37



>Maybe this is why I was demolished on my first kart outing by a mate who
>I can blitz in sim racing.  Or maybe I'm just not any good.  But I was
>taken aback by how physical it was.  I can't imagine what it must be like
>for the real F1 drivers to fight the g-forces for 2 hours in the heat
>(like Bahrain this weekend).

Hey, have you ever been to Kart-2-Kart in Sterling heights?  That's a lot of
fun...
...although you'd probably kill me THERE, too. <g>

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vvixxxe

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by vvixxxe » Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:38:04


> So guys, whos with me in thinking its harder to drive the roadies with the
> 900 wheel but easier to drive the roundy rounds with it?

> one things for sure, going from a BRD wheel to an MSFF wheel to a Logitech
> Driving Force Pro wheel with 900 degrees of rotation (but still using those
> amazing BRD pedals, and im only talking about their old ones!) takes ALOT of
> getting used to!

> cool wheel.

> pez

Is this for PC?
Logitech site said this is for PlayStation2.
Steve Smit

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Steve Smit » Fri, 09 Apr 2004 06:36:09

Prolly is a PS2 part, but being USB, prolly also works w. a PC.  BTW. some
(but not all) PC wheels work w. the PS2.  You'd think Microsoft, which
championed USB (over Firewire, hyped by archrival Apple) would've
incorporated USB in the Xbox, but nooooooooooooo..............



Ped Xin

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Ped Xin » Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:52:19



No, I haven't heard of it.  I'll have to look it up.  I've been karting
exactly once in my life, in Indy during the 2002 GP weekend.

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Eldre

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Eldre » Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:40:39



>> Hey, have you ever been to Kart-2-Kart in Sterling heights?  That's a
>> lot of fun...
>> ...although you'd probably kill me THERE, too. <g>

>No, I haven't heard of it.  I'll have to look it up.  I've been karting
>exactly once in my life, in Indy during the 2002 GP weekend.

A guy in one of my GPL leagues told me about it.  I've been out there a couple
of times.

http://www.kart2kart.com/

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Ped Xin

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Ped Xin » Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:22:54



Thanks mate, looks fun.  I'm going to see if I can rustle up my gang to go
there.

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vvixxxe

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by vvixxxe » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:15:05

How does it's force feedback compares to other PC wheels, when connected to PC.
As far as I know, the PlayStation only supports rumbles/vibrations.

> Prolly is a PS2 part, but being USB, prolly also works w. a PC.  BTW. some
> (but not all) PC wheels work w. the PS2.  You'd think Microsoft, which
> championed USB (over Firewire, hyped by archrival Apple) would've
> incorporated USB in the Xbox, but nooooooooooooo..............

vvixxxe

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by vvixxxe » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:26:15

How does it's force feedback compares to other PC wheels, when connected to PC?
As far as I know, the PlayStation controllers only rumble/vibrate.

> Prolly is a PS2 part, but being USB, prolly also works w. a PC.  BTW. some
> (but not all) PC wheels work w. the PS2.  You'd think Microsoft, which
> championed USB (over Firewire, hyped by archrival Apple) would've
> incorporated USB in the Xbox, but nooooooooooooo..............

Steve Smit

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by Steve Smit » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:28:09

Righto.  There may be actual force feedback, but what I felt was only
rumble.  GT4 may have actual FF...if the 900-deg. TM wheel supports it.


> How does it's force feedback compares to other PC wheels, when connected
to PC?
> As far as I know, the PlayStation controllers only rumble/vibrate.




vvixxxe

Anybody else using the logi 900degree pro wheel with NASCAR 2003?

by vvixxxe » Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:47:58

Hmm. GT4 is PlayStation.
What I really want to know is how does Pro force feedback compare to
like MOMOs, when it's used with PC/USB, playing PC racing sims.

> Righto.  There may be actual force feedback, but what I felt was only
> rumble.  GT4 may have actual FF...if the 900-deg. TM wheel supports it.


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