I forget which CD it was too.
Larry
I forget which CD it was too.
Larry
Larry
> I certainly understand the point of your "open letter"....and your right
to
> express your opinion about the copy protection programming used on the
> NASCAR 2003 CD program. I also happen to agree with your conclusions,
120%.
> However, Dave....I wonder how wise it was to use this public forum (a
> popular sim racing newsgroup) to express your opinion to
> Sierra/Papyrus/Vivendi. I would point out to you that "civil
disobedience"
> is an American concept, but it isn't applicable in civil law (not in this
> country at least). You have expressly and directly admitted to personal
> actions that violate multiple sections of the Papyrus/Sierra/Vivendi EULA
> (End User License Agreement) and the Sierra.com "Terms of Use" agreement,
> which you agreed to abide by.......through installation of the NASCAR 2003
> CD on your computer. You are now subject to being sued (through the
courts
> of the State of California) for unspecified damages, and if you do not
> prevail in your defense (not likely since you've admitted to these acts
> publicly), the attorney fees not only for yourself, but for
> Papyrus/Sierra/Vivendi to bring this action upon you. I can tell you
> through direct experience, those fees will approach $40,000....just for
> their side alone, plus your own attorney fees (and travel to California
for
> court appearances). At the very least, you can probably count on your CD
> key and Sierra.com online racing account being cancelled (permanently).
> I only hope Papyrus/Sierra/Vivendi legal department is as lenient with you
> as they were with me two years ago.....when I pulled a similar (stupid)
> stunt!
> I consider you one of my best friends.....from the online racing
> "***world".....I really hope you have not totally screwed yourself
> here....just to make a point (no matter how valid). Geeeze, Dave....what
> were you thinking?
> Having "been there, done that"....my regards,
> Tom
> PS: To anyone asking Dave to help you do something similar.....you can
> probably count on joining Dave's defense...as well as adding to the amount
> of damages awarded if he loses. You are not doing yourself, or Dave any
> good.......send him a private email if you are so inclined to ask for the
> program(s) he used.
> > Today I received my purchased copy of N2k3. At 1:07pm I began the
> > process of installing. This comprised searching the web for details on
> > bypassing the copy protection. After reading a couple of public forums
> and
> > downloading two programs I placed the disk in the drive. 15 minutes
later
> > I took the disk out of the drive and and clicked on the menu icon. N2k3
> > started and I installed the program. I then rebooted per instructions.
> > Before 2pm I had completely bypassed your expensive copy protection.
> While
> > I did have experience with past versions of Daemon Tools, I was advised
by
> > the forums to use a very unfamiliar program to write an image of the
> > disk.(notice I decline to call it a cdrom since I believe your abhorrent
> > copy protection schemes place the disk outside of the parameters
> > established by Phillips for a CDrom disk).
> > So in less than an hour I installed, ran and tested online the
program,
> > all without the prescense of a disk in the cdrom tray. I should bill
your
> > companies for my time that I spent protecting my system from your copy
> > protection schemes.
> > I have read that a 'Save Game' feature was not included in this
version
> > of Nascar Racing 2003 because of the added cost to program that feature.
> I
> > can understand that reasoning, but I am curious how much your deal with
> the
> > copy protection company cost you. If I were you, I'd be asking for a
> > large rebate or complete refund from the maker of the copy protection.
If
> > I was able to defeat it within an hour, I can only imagine how simple it
> > would be for true professionals to bypass this system. If your company
> had
> > chosen to spend funds on improving your product instead of possibly
> causing
> > damage to my system with heinous non-standard file additions and disk
> > manufacturing, you might have had ample funds to program a 'Save Game'
> > feature.
> > Obviously your business choices show more intent to do harm to
> casual
> > computer user's systems than to deter actual software theft. If I was
> > unable to bypass the copy protection on this disk, I would have returned
> > it. I believe your business practice of copy-protecting by corrupting
the
> > CDROM protocols, a purchase I have legitimately made, shows an complete
> and
> > utter DISDAIN for me, the end user.
> > Your use of a key number to limit online participation should be
more
> > than sufficient to deter multiple copies of the program being bought and
> > sold. But by adding onerous. and ultimately non-effective, copy
> protection
> > schemes does not benefit your company, or your customer. I am sure
> though,
> > the Secure Rom or Safe Disk programmers value your financial
contributions
> > to their bank accounts.
> > Dave Henrie
> > 2928 W Wellesley Ave
> > Spokane, Wa. 99205
> > 1 (509) 328-7626
> Well Dave....
Lawyers....now here's a quote from Scott Husted's fav song;
"The more I think about it, Old Billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight"
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--
Ian P
Instead of keeping my mind on my work today..I played TV lawyer all day
and ended up running late.
Here's my plan.
If I'm sued I'll fight in the Court of Public opinion. Since Vivendi
and, I think, Havas are French, I'm sure there is a certain Cable TV host
in NYC who would LOVE to hear about a French owned company suing a poor
honest American for speaking his mind about damaging business practices.
Then to prove how dangerous hardware Copy Protection is...I'd supeona the
big 3 copy protection CEO's(that includes Sony right?) and demonstrate the
willfull attack on my property.
After that...I'd get dirty...
:)
dave henrie
You need something for people to be afraid of if you want their
attention/opinion. Work the "Havas/Vivendi are threatening to put
honest American software companies out of business" angle somehow.
Also, recreate Earnhardt's fatal accident in N2003 and use that as
evidence that Havas has links with Al Qaeda and was responsible for
his death. Finally, take some random aerial photos of trucks leaving
the Havas office so you have firm proof that their software company is
just a front for a bio/chemical weapons plant. When the judge laughs
you out of the courtroom, leak the above info to the press so you can
convince the public that France needs to be pre-emptively struck.
Afterwards drink tea and promote Terry Gilliam to the position of Lord
Protector of France.
Jason
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Fester
File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
Cheers,
uwe
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The nature of today's copy protection is to manufacture errors onto the
readable surface of the disc. I think that the errors fall outside the
normal parameters for cd operation, thus Phillips doesn't allow the cd
symbol to be used on heavily copy-protected discs. Anytime you are forcing
your hardware to operate outside of it's designed parameters, you are
increasing wear and tear and the chance of drive becoming non functional.
The old old Commodore 64's used to have a copy protection that would bang
the read head against the drive stop...after a few hundred whacks the drive
would lose it's calibration and could not read files any longer.
While I don't think cdrom's are being whacked...they are being forced to
operate in a manner not conducive to long operating life...that, in my
opinion, is malicous.
dave henrie
Just rename the cracked exe to something like . . . Oh, I don't know .
. . say cracked_N2003.exe.
Then make a shortcut to that and run it when offline and the regular one
when online.
Ta Da ;o)
Elrikk
Larry
> }Hey, I'm right there with ya Goy, except I use my iPod as a "Mega
Changer"
> }on my home Stereo, something it is amazing at doing well.
> I use a 10 GB iPod on my Gold Wing instead of the $1000 factory 6 disc
> changer... :)