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by **Stuart Nicholso** » Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I'm so frustrated with this corner. I'm driving the Ferrari bog standard
default setup. I have got a 1.30 a couple of times and I'm getting pretty
good at hurling the car into corners. But the last corner, before the main
straight, has really got me. I just can't get it. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I drop
from 5th. to 4th. when I hit the grey area immediately before the white sign
on your left. Start feathering the breaks then down to 3rd. and finally 2nd.
as I arrive at the corner. Since the corner is in two parts my main concern
is the 1st. part. I either arrive too fast and drift off into the gravel or
arrive too far to the right and, guess what, drift off into the gravel.
Other alternative is arrive too slow and no revs so end up losing way too
much time on this corner drivelling around it and trying to get revs up
again to hit the 2nd. part of the corner and avoid the fence thingy to your
left before hitting the main straight. Trouble is I'm not doing the computer
cars any favours behind me as the poor bastards try and work out where the
hell I'm going. I usually qualify about 12th. to 14th. Get a pretty good
start and take the first corner in 10th or so. The hold my own till we
arrive at this dreaded last corner. Cause a fair amount is panic as usually
Surtees is behind me and that big red sun looms up in my mirrors and I'm
going "Oh no I don't want to stuff up John line" and he's like darting to
the left then the right going "Who is this idiot? And who gave him a drivers
license?" So I usually go into the dirt, hit the esc key, No I don't want to
save the practice, Yes I do want to load the practice, Green button and back
to the starting grid and let's do it all AGAIN. Blimey I have gone on a bit
haven't I? :0)

Seriously though folks some help on this corner would be appreciated.

by **Matthew V. Jessic** » Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:00:00

IIRC from the "Advanced Setup Guide" posted by the author of one of the
documents in GPL, he gives his top speed at the corner at the end
of the straight as 193 mph. If you can get that fast (and you have a 1:30 time?
;)
you presumably aren't going "too" slow through the Parabolica.
On the other hand, if you are always ending in the gravel, you are probably
too fast ;)

Also, I always remind myself to give more braking margin on the first lap,
due to cold tires...

- Matt

> I'm so frustrated with this corner. I'm driving the Ferrari bog standard
> default setup. I have got a 1.30 a couple of times and I'm getting pretty
> good at hurling the car into corners. But the last corner, before the main
> straight, has really got me. I just can't get it. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I drop
> from 5th. to 4th. when I hit the grey area immediately before the white sign
> on your left. Start feathering the breaks then down to 3rd. and finally 2nd.
> as I arrive at the corner. Since the corner is in two parts my main concern
> is the 1st. part. I either arrive too fast and drift off into the gravel or
> arrive too far to the right and, guess what, drift off into the gravel.
> Other alternative is arrive too slow and no revs so end up losing way too
> much time on this corner drivelling around it and trying to get revs up
> again to hit the 2nd. part of the corner and avoid the fence thingy to your
> left before hitting the main straight. Trouble is I'm not doing the computer
> cars any favours behind me as the poor bastards try and work out where the
> hell I'm going. I usually qualify about 12th. to 14th. Get a pretty good
> start and take the first corner in 10th or so. The hold my own till we
> arrive at this dreaded last corner. Cause a fair amount is panic as usually
> Surtees is behind me and that big red sun looms up in my mirrors and I'm
> going "Oh no I don't want to stuff up John line" and he's like darting to
> the left then the right going "Who is this idiot? And who gave him a drivers
> license?" So I usually go into the dirt, hit the esc key, No I don't want to
> save the practice, Yes I do want to load the practice, Green button and back
> to the starting grid and let's do it all AGAIN. Blimey I have gone on a bit
> haven't I? :0)

> Seriously though folks some help on this corner would be appreciated.

by **Michae** » Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I had trouble with the entry to the Parabolica at first too. The corner
entry speed is much, much slower than it looks visually. If you make the
entry and the apex properly, its just a case of being patient waiting to
open up the throttle, and controlling the wheelspin on the way out. Once I
got it right I was down to sub-1.30s quickly.

- Michael

by **John Walla** » Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:00:00

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:54:24 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"

>I'm so frustrated with this corner. I'm driving the Ferrari bog standard
>default setup. I have got a 1.30 a couple of times and I'm getting pretty
>good at hurling the car into corners. But the last corner, before the main
>straight, has really got me. I just can't get it.

The Parabolica for some reason always feels slow, even if you get it
right. I think we've been spoiled by GP2 where the wings and big
slicks let you barrel round there without a care in the world.

I brake just a shade after the white sign on the left and keep the
wheels just short of tyre screeching noises (braking after the white
sign really is my final limit, and if I initially lock up the wheels I
will be off. It's better to brake a little earlier and work down to
that). Downshifting to fourth, third, second in smooth fashion as
speed allows, I change my line to move into the apex fairly early,
mainly to give more room for braking and to avoid too sharp a turn-in.
I then hug the apex closely all the way around (to stop any CCs
getting their nose alongside) and then squeeze the power on gently
_as_early_ as possible.

I've tried a number of ways of doing it and that seems to be the best.
You have a lot of road to play with if things go pear-shaped, you keep
a tight line so anyone passing has to drive around the outside amd you
can get on the power well.

Cheers!
John

by **Graeme Nas** » Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:00:00

This is an extract from my forthcoming Monza guide.. Hope it helps a
little. My best lap is 1m28.2 BTW.

--
Blast down the straight and set yourself up for the Parabolica by
ensuring that, as ever, you are as far over to the left of the track as
you can be.

Braking for the Parabolica is very tricky. I use the "Ford" sign on the
right as a braking marker, although I know that some people use
something different. Using the Ford Marker - think about braking when
half the sign has already disappeared out of view. This will mean that
you will begin slowing the car just before the whole sign has
disappeared. You need to employ the standard GPL braking technique of
very light pressure at first followed by a gradual increase and
virtually full braking as you get near to the apex. You may need to pump
the brake pedal to get the car fully slowed in time - the entry to this
turn is deceptively slow.

You need to take a fairly classical line here. Change down and turn in
quite late for a shallow entry and stay close to the inside until you
are confident that you can accelerate without hitting anything. You will
either be in 2nd or 3rd gear, depending on your preference. 2nd gear is
more responsive, but 3rd gear will reduce the risk of spinning under
acceleration as it is more controllable.

Power out of the corner and if you've made a good exit you will be doing
around 170mph across the line.
--

Cheers!

--
Graeme Nash

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http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/
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"!"

by **a..** » Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Yes Yes Yes, that's exactly my problem too!.

Especially that blasted Surtees - I've lost count of the number of
times he's taken me out from behind! So I get very very nervous when I
see that white thing (Surtees' car) in the mirrors - which makes me
prone to messing the corner up all by myself.

I guess I'll have to keep practising!

Cheers

Alan.

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:54:24 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"

>I'm so frustrated with this corner. I'm driving the Ferrari bog standard
>default setup. I have got a 1.30 a couple of times and I'm getting pretty
>good at hurling the car into corners. But the last corner, before the main
>straight, has really got me. I just can't get it. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I drop
>from 5th. to 4th. when I hit the grey area immediately before the white sign
>on your left. Start feathering the breaks then down to 3rd. and finally 2nd.
>as I arrive at the corner. Since the corner is in two parts my main concern
>is the 1st. part. I either arrive too fast and drift off into the gravel or
>arrive too far to the right and, guess what, drift off into the gravel.
>Other alternative is arrive too slow and no revs so end up losing way too
>much time on this corner drivelling around it and trying to get revs up
>again to hit the 2nd. part of the corner and avoid the fence thingy to your
>left before hitting the main straight. Trouble is I'm not doing the computer
>cars any favours behind me as the poor bastards try and work out where the
>hell I'm going. I usually qualify about 12th. to 14th. Get a pretty good
>start and take the first corner in 10th or so. The hold my own till we
>arrive at this dreaded last corner. Cause a fair amount is panic as usually
>Surtees is behind me and that big red sun looms up in my mirrors and I'm
>going "Oh no I don't want to stuff up John line" and he's like darting to
>the left then the right going "Who is this idiot? And who gave him a drivers
>license?" So I usually go into the dirt, hit the esc key, No I don't want to
>save the practice, Yes I do want to load the practice, Green button and back
>to the starting grid and let's do it all AGAIN. Blimey I have gone on a bit
>haven't I? :0)

>Seriously though folks some help on this corner would be appreciated.

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