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Best FF wheel?

Magnus Nilsso

Best FF wheel?

by Magnus Nilsso » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Which ForceFeedback wheel should I buy? I have reduced them to,
*Actlab
*Saitek
*Thrustmaster
But I cant decide. The biggest problem is that I havent seen anyone of
them as its difficult to find them in the stores in Sweden.
Please help me with tips on which one I should buy!
Robin Freeserv

Best FF wheel?

by Robin Freeserv » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00


>Which ForceFeedback wheel should I buy? I have reduced them to,
>*Actlab
>*Saitek
>*Thrustmaster
>But I cant decide. The biggest problem is that I havent seen anyone of
>them as its difficult to find them in the stores in Sweden.
>Please help me with tips on which one I should buy!

Hi,
I've just***the Saitek R4 FF. Its quite good. A bit limited on buttons but
with a stick shift and paddles and simple mounting system I'm pleased with
it.
I get the impression any FF wheel is good just look at the controls etc.
RSJ
SteveBla

Best FF wheel?

by SteveBla » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Take a look at http://www.gamecenter.com/
They have a comparison of five FF wheels, including the ones you mention.  They
ranked the ACT Labs Force RS wheel first, and the Logitech Wingman Formula
Force second.  Of note: Their primary gripe against the Wingman was that the FF
effects were not as strong as with the RS, a fact that has been remedied with
the newest verson 3.12 drivers, available online.  Also, the ACT wheel does not
offer separate axis pedals, which is a BIG help with GPL.  Anyway, check out
the review.  There are also some good reviews on http://www.force-1.com.  Be
sure to check out the discussion forum for plenty of first-hand opinions.

Steve B.

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Keit

Best FF wheel?

by Keit » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00


> >Which ForceFeedback wheel should I buy?

> Take a look at http://www.gamecenter.com/
> They have a comparison of five FF wheels, including the ones you mention.  They
> ranked the ACT Labs Force RS wheel first, and the Logitech Wingman Formula
> Force second.  Of note: Their primary gripe against the Wingman was that the FF
> effects were not as strong as with the RS, a fact that has been remedied with
> the newest verson 3.12 drivers, available online.

The primary gripe is actually the short pedal travel and weak spring. Hopefully
it's not too bad, I have the Logitech on order. If the pedals really are bad I will
have to return the wheel and rethink my options.

Keith.

Richard J. Koche

Best FF wheel?

by Richard J. Koche » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

I don't have the wheel, but I think that you can go to Home Depot and buy stronger
springs for only a couple of bucks and solve the weak pedal spring problem.  BTW, does
anyone know the absolute cheapest place to get the Logitech Formula Force?

Thanks,
Ryan Kocher



> > >Which ForceFeedback wheel should I buy?

> > Take a look at http://www.gamecenter.com/
> > They have a comparison of five FF wheels, including the ones you mention.  They
> > ranked the ACT Labs Force RS wheel first, and the Logitech Wingman Formula
> > Force second.  Of note: Their primary gripe against the Wingman was that the FF
> > effects were not as strong as with the RS, a fact that has been remedied with
> > the newest verson 3.12 drivers, available online.

> The primary gripe is actually the short pedal travel and weak spring. Hopefully
> it's not too bad, I have the Logitech on order. If the pedals really are bad I will
> have to return the wheel and rethink my options.

> Keith.

SteveBla

Best FF wheel?

by SteveBla » Sun, 20 Dec 1998 04:00:00

stronger springs for only a couple of bucks and solve the weak pedal spring
problem.

The spring problem is real, but can be easily (& cheaply-$2.00) solved, as the
springs are very simple coils.  Search dejanews.com or the discussion forum on
Force-1.com for various fixes and spring sources.  Also, I've seen posts that
the ones showing up now have stronger springs from the first production run.  I
just unplugged the wiring and plugged it into the pots on my CH pedals, since I
already had 'em & loved 'em; it works great.

As for cheapest source, Buycomp and Neutron have it for about $108(plus
shipping), though no one seems to have it in stock right now.  The first batch
must've sold out already.  Check on shopper.com.

Steve B.

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# Leon

Best FF wheel?

by # Leon » Tue, 22 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Hi

What do you do with the separate axis pedals ?
does that help with the driving........



jhal

Best FF wheel?

by jhal » Tue, 22 Dec 1998 04:00:00

It allows you to brake and give the engine gas at the same time.
Without this, if you're giving, say, 1/2 throttle, then 1/4 brake, the
computer registers this as only 1/4 throttle, and no brake.  With
separate axes, the computer registers 1/2 throttle AND 1/4 brake.

I've never been to a driving school, but I like to begin my turn while
still braking (trail-braking), then when the car begins to slide, give
it a little gas.  So if I'm a little too fast at the beginning of a
corner, I might still be on the brake to slow down, and on the gas at
the same time to steady the car.

J. Hall



>Hi

>What do you do with the separate axis pedals ?
>does that help with the driving........



>> >Which ForceFeedback wheel should I buy?

>> Take a look at http://www.gamecenter.com/
>> They have a comparison of five FF wheels, including the ones you mention.
> They
>> ranked the ACT Labs Force RS wheel first, and the Logitech Wingman
>Formula
>> Force second.  Of note: Their primary gripe against the Wingman was that
>the FF
>> effects were not as strong as with the RS, a fact that has been remedied
>with
>> the newest verson 3.12 drivers, available online.  Also, the ACT wheel
>does not
>> offer separate axis pedals, which is a BIG help with GPL.  Anyway, check
>out
>> the review.  There are also some good reviews on http://www.force-1.com.
>Be
>> sure to check out the discussion forum for plenty of first-hand opinions.

>> Steve B.

>> remove "edy" from address for email

J

Best FF wheel?

by J » Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Buy the Microsoft FF Wheel <grin>

Jens

On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:51:20 +0100, Magnus Nilsson


>Which ForceFeedback wheel should I buy? I have reduced them to,
>*Actlab
>*Saitek
>*Thrustmaster
>But I cant decide. The biggest problem is that I havent seen anyone of
>them as its difficult to find them in the stores in Sweden.
>Please help me with tips on which one I should buy!

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DJR

Best FF wheel?

by DJR » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Because I own one and that's all that really matters.


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