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X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

Dan Bourge

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by Dan Bourge » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00

OK gang What's the best FF wheel out there for around $150.00.

Matt & Ton

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by Matt & Ton » Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I've only tried the LWFF, but I love it!

Warlock!


> OK gang What's the best FF wheel out there for around $150.00.

Jacvil

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by Jacvil » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I have only tried one as well, but really love the Microsoft FF wheel/pedal
combo.  It works with every game I own (except the old N2 and possibly the DOS
version of ICR2 (comments, anyone?)).  

Depending on the game, the FF effects range from subtle/non-existent (SCGT,
TOCA2 where all you get is rumble strips and wall bumps), to integral to
controlling the car accurately (GPL, natch).  The optical/digital control
surfaces require NO re-calibration, and the profile configuration software
bundles with the wheel makes it easy to customize controls and axes for
different games.  The pedals support split axes for gas and brake (really does
make a difference for games that support it).

The clamping mechanism is very well engineered, but can only be clamped onto a
surface of about 2" max. thickness (I had to remove the upper drawer from my
desk so that I could attach the pedals).  Other than that, the only other minor
beef I have is the lack of a column-type shifter.  The F1-style paddles behind
the wheel are nice, but do take a bit of getting used to, especially at full
lock.

I paid about $130 for mine through mail order nearly 6 months ago, and can
recommend it highly.

"The moment someone's laziness makes my life difficult, I turn into an ***
with a cause."


GTX_SlotCa

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by GTX_SlotCa » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Act Labs Force or Guillemot Ferrari, no doubt.

Slot


OK gang What's the best FF wheel out there for around $150.00.

John Hartridg

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by John Hartridg » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Are there any "head-to-head" comparisons/reviews of these two ?

John
--
John Hartridge


>Act Labs Force or Guillemot Ferrari, no doubt.

GTX_SlotCa

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by GTX_SlotCa » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

As a matter of fact, there will be exactly that. With this news group in
mind, Act Labs has given me the okay to do a head to head shootout with the
Guillemot Ferrari wheel. They are quite confident that I'll like their wheel
better. Because of the Christmas rush, they are out of wheels, but should be
sending me one in about a week. So if you can hold off....
The review will be more based on driving impressions, smoothness and
accuracy, than on the color of the box. I'll test both units on a wide range
of games and on 2 computers. I plan on being brutally honest in my
conclusions. I'll keep this ng posted. If you need to buy your wheel right
away, remember that Act Labs has a 30 day, money back, satisfaction
guarantee. But... it will cost you shipping each way.

Slot


>Are there any "head-to-head" comparisons/reviews of these two ?

>John
>--
>John Hartridge


>>Act Labs Force or Guillemot Ferrari, no doubt.

Dan Bourge

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by Dan Bourge » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I thought I'd see more about the LWFF wheel. I was kind of leaning that way but now you other guys have got me thinking differently.

Any thoughts on the LWFF out there?

Thanks for the replies everyone, Dan

  I've only tried the LWFF, but I love it!
  Warlock!


    OK gang What's the best FF wheel out there for around $150.00.

Gary Shepar

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by Gary Shepar » Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Well I have owned a V4 Force Feedback Interact Wheel since last Christmas,
recently
I decided to purchase the Act Labs Force RS wheel.  I thought the USB and
shifter additions looked interesting.
When I received them I immediately removed the InterAct V4 and installed the
Act Labs Force RS with Shifter through the USB port.
I was highly dissappointed in the feedback "feel" compared to the Act Labs
wheel. Other than that the fit and finish of the Act Labs RS is superb. The
shifter worked superb. The gas and brake pedals are superb. I feel the
InterAct V4 software interface is much better and easier to program. After
keeping the Act Labs Force RS for about a week and dealing with their superb
tech support I was forced to return their Force RS wheel. I really wanted to
keep it just because of the USB and Shifter features, But the InterAct V4
beats it hands down in actual game play enjoyment The bumps (rough roads)
feel like bumps. The slides like slides, Crashes like crashes, engine rumble
like an engine rumbling ect. ect.

I was ready to trade off the Interact V4 for the new RS Force but I couldn't
do it. The InterAct V4 wheel has spoiled me. Until a wheel comes along that
has at least equal to performance in force feedback I have to remain
satisfied with this simple but very gratifying wheel.


> >> OK gang What's the best FF wheel out there for around $150.00.

> I have only tried one as well, but really love the Microsoft FF
wheel/pedal
> combo.  It works with every game I own (except the old N2 and possibly the
DOS
> version of ICR2 (comments, anyone?)).

> Depending on the game, the FF effects range from subtle/non-existent
(SCGT,
> TOCA2 where all you get is rumble strips and wall bumps), to integral to
> controlling the car accurately (GPL, natch).  The optical/digital control
> surfaces require NO re-calibration, and the profile configuration software
> bundles with the wheel makes it easy to customize controls and axes for
> different games.  The pedals support split axes for gas and brake (really
does
> make a difference for games that support it).

> The clamping mechanism is very well engineered, but can only be clamped
onto a
> surface of about 2" max. thickness (I had to remove the upper drawer from
my
> desk so that I could attach the pedals).  Other than that, the only other
minor
> beef I have is the lack of a column-type shifter.  The F1-style paddles
behind
> the wheel are nice, but do take a bit of getting used to, especially at
full
> lock.

> I paid about $130 for mine through mail order nearly 6 months ago, and can
> recommend it highly.

> "The moment someone's laziness makes my life difficult, I turn into an
***
> with a cause."



spif

X-MAS Gift Best FF Wheel???

by spif » Tue, 28 Dec 1999 04:00:00

How'd you fix the delayed response of the gas/brake pedal? The last time I
used the V4 here at work (back when Official Formula 1 was in test), the gas
and brake pedals had this delay that made it impossible to drive any realistic
sim. Forget throttle steering with GPL, since what you do with the pedals is
definitely not what you get. A quick stab/release at the gas pedal didn't
produce a high-RPM rev, just a bump above idle. Even reviews I've read about
the wheel complained about the same thing. Did Interact fix this with newer
software or something?



>Well I have owned a V4 Force Feedback Interact Wheel since last Christmas,
>recently
>I decided to purchase the Act Labs Force RS wheel.  I thought the USB and
>shifter additions looked interesting.
>When I received them I immediately removed the InterAct V4 and installed the
>Act Labs Force RS with Shifter through the USB port.
>I was highly dissappointed in the feedback "feel" compared to the Act Labs
>wheel. Other than that the fit and finish of the Act Labs RS is superb. The
>shifter worked superb. The gas and brake pedals are superb. I feel the
>InterAct V4 software interface is much better and easier to program. After
>keeping the Act Labs Force RS for about a week and dealing with their superb
>tech support I was forced to return their Force RS wheel. I really wanted to
>keep it just because of the USB and Shifter features, But the InterAct V4
>beats it hands down in actual game play enjoyment The bumps (rough roads)
>feel like bumps. The slides like slides, Crashes like crashes, engine rumble
>like an engine rumbling ect. ect.

>I was ready to trade off the Interact V4 for the new RS Force but I couldn't
>do it. The InterAct V4 wheel has spoiled me. Until a wheel comes along that
>has at least equal to performance in force feedback I have to remain
>satisfied with this simple but very gratifying wheel.



>> >> OK gang What's the best FF wheel out there for around $150.00.

>> I have only tried one as well, but really love the Microsoft FF
>wheel/pedal
>> combo.  It works with every game I own (except the old N2 and possibly the
>DOS
>> version of ICR2 (comments, anyone?)).

>> Depending on the game, the FF effects range from subtle/non-existent
>(SCGT,
>> TOCA2 where all you get is rumble strips and wall bumps), to integral to
>> controlling the car accurately (GPL, natch).  The optical/digital control
>> surfaces require NO re-calibration, and the profile configuration software
>> bundles with the wheel makes it easy to customize controls and axes for
>> different games.  The pedals support split axes for gas and brake (really
>does
>> make a difference for games that support it).

>> The clamping mechanism is very well engineered, but can only be clamped
>onto a
>> surface of about 2" max. thickness (I had to remove the upper drawer from
>my
>> desk so that I could attach the pedals).  Other than that, the only other
>minor
>> beef I have is the lack of a column-type shifter.  The F1-style paddles
>behind
>> the wheel are nice, but do take a bit of getting used to, especially at
>full
>> lock.

>> I paid about $130 for mine through mail order nearly 6 months ago, and can
>> recommend it highly.

>> "The moment someone's laziness makes my life difficult, I turn into an
>***
>> with a cause."




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