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well i see so much posted in here about the graphics cards well lets make
it easy for the rest of us out here please send me the info and i will
post.i need the fastest boards for  dos and windows 95   yes gp2  nascar
raceing so on. then lets do dos and win 3.1
i myself have owned so many differnt video cards its not funny. right now i
run the herc 128 . and it is a lot better than the diamond 3240 2meg vram
in my book. so if we can put this together for all the raceing sim fans out
there i would be more than glad to post on a reg basis to keep everone up 2
date. heres my top 5 not in any order.
diamond  3do                        
hercules 128. 2.25 mdram                                                  
                                   stb 128, lightspeed 2.25mdram          
                                                                matrox mga
millennium w ram
diamond 3200 2 megs vram        it sure would be nice if one of these
graphics card companys would sit down and build a top video card for us
raceing sim  people  and give us the best of both worlds .win95 performance
and  dos performance. with out giveing up great graphics in windows 95
anyone listening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  just like number 9s 128 series 2  great
board  in win95  699.00$   but your screwed in dos.... please send me your
input

My input is that all your choices are a moot point. Any of those cards you
listed will perform the same with GP2, Nascar etc... We are only talking about
a maximum of 30fps. If you want faster video, buy a faster cpu. Your cpu is
doing all the work, your video card is just cruising along.

The 3D cards are not standardized as of yet so buying any of those is a gamble.

Terry
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Nope.

A P-166 with Matrox Millenium will have a better frame rate in, say,
ICR2 than the same P-166 with an ATI Mach-64. The video card DOES make a
difference (although not as much as the CPU), but it's fair to say that
that you will have a lot of problems with a BAD video card, and not too
many benefits from a really good one.

Cheers!
John

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I said of those that he listed....did you see a ATI board listed in his choices?

Sure there are video boards that are very bad. I've run Nascar in SVGA with a
Mach64 in a dx4-100 and had good frame rates with minimal graphics turned on.

Terry
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Not true. The MACH64 is in the middle of the pack if you run VESA1.2 and
among the faster if you run VESA2.0. I run Duke Nukem at 30-40fps
on my P133 at 640x480. The MACH64 has very good windows performance,
BTW.

BTW, does anyone know if you can make GP2 use VESA2.0? I loaded my
Vesa2.0 driver but GP2 didn't care.
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Markus

As for the card being 'bad', it replaced a Diamond Stealth which seemed to
conflict with all sorts of Windows software.  Both seem to have about the same
performance, but I've not measured either of them...

Anyone in 0171\0181 London area into GP2 head to head via modem at weekend BT
rates, Email me!

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Why is the ATI Mach64 such a bad card!  I have the Mach 64 with 4mb
vram and I think that it works well.  In windows it just flies with
interactive movies, like Silent steel!!
The Mach64 is also very good with Access' the Pandora Directive.  The
graphics are extremely smooth!

ANY COMMENTS?

Chris