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GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

Mark Jeangerar

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Mark Jeangerar » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Ah... but you will be sliding through corners with 4 wheel drift. But the
margin for error is much tighter. The speed is higher and the car goes away
more quickly. He did pretty good with the physics of GP2 and there's no way
the graphical perpective of GP3 could be half as bad as GPL. If he's Geoff,
I think we'll see a terrific sense of acceleration and speed, and hopefully,
bumps and twitchyness.

GP3 got no online.

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico, USA

Goy Larse

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Goy Larse » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> > The same handful

> And I'll always think of you as our genetically inbred sixth finger ;-)

> Andrew McP... off to find a cousin to sleep with (does Elle McPherson have
> any cousins?)

If she doesn't, I'd like to volunteer for that position, I'm sure I've
had some relatives move to wherever she's from at some point in time :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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Bruce Kennewel

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Let's rephrase that slightly just to get some accuracy into it, shall we?
How about "The same handful of guys will go on and on and on and on about
GPL until something is produced that surpasses it".

There. That's MUCH better!
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------



> You're right. The same handful of guys will go on and on and on and on
about
> GPL no matter what.

> David G Fisher





> > > GP3 won't, simply because of the completely different physics between
> them
> > > and the eras modelled.  Even if the physics engines were identical,
the
> > > "feel" of GPL over GP3 would be like comparing chalk and cheese.

> > My feelings exactly.  I don't expect to be sliding through corners with
4
> > wheel drift in GP3, which is a large part of the charm of GPL.  Since
the
> > cars handle so differently, straight up comparisons aren't really in
> order.
> > For you flight sim fans, it'd be like comparing Red Baron 3D to European
> Air
> > War.  Both are great sims, but the subject matter is strikingly
different.

> > I really do hope that GP3 is a marvelous sim, and this isn't just some
> blind
> > GPL loyalty.  But I don't expect GP3 to wipe GPL off the board
regardless
> of
> > how great it might prove to be.

Bruce Kennewel

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Ummm....GP3 will STILL be representative of contemporary F1, in comparison
to GPL, of course.
Changes to the formula between 1998 and 2000 are miniscule.  Changes to the
drivers equally so.
Therefore, compared to both the formula and the drivers of the 1967, GP3 is
certainly "contemporary".

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> The difference is that GPL intends to be a historical racing sim. GP3 is
> trying to be contemporary, but will fail in that respect because OTB it'll
> use 1998 data. Kinda like playing European Air war in  Gloster Gladiators





> > > (snipped)

> > > > > For you flight sim fans, it'd be like comparing Red Baron 3D to
> European
> > > Air
> > > > > War.  Both are great sims, but the subject matter is strikingly
> > > different.

> > > > A better analogy is to compare a WW2 sim with a modern jet-sim,
isn't
> it ?

> > > I might have said so, but by the time they finally get GP3 out the
door
> both
> > > it and GPL will be dealing with historical seasons.  :-)

> > Of course, why didn't i think of that.  :)

> > --
> > Olav K. Malmin
> > remove spam when replying

Bruce Kennewel

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

She has a gorgeous sister (Mimi)!!  Dunno about her cousins....if any,
they're bound to be blokes!

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


Goy Larse

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Goy Larse » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00



> > > The same handful

> > And I'll always think of you as our genetically inbred sixth finger ;-)

> > Andrew McP... off to find a cousin to sleep with (does Elle McPherson have
> > any cousins?)

> If she doesn't, I'd like to volunteer for that position, I'm sure I've
> had some relatives move to wherever she's from at some point in time :-)

Ok, that didn't come out the way it was meant to....

Andrew, I'm not volunteering to sleep with you in place of Elle's
missing cousins :-)))

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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Goy Larse

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Goy Larse » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> She has a gorgeous sister (Mimi)!!  Dunno about her cousins....if any,
> they're bound to be blokes!

Did Mimi's phone number get lost in the famous "Black Book Incident" as
well ?

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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Martyn Danb

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Martyn Danb » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Didn't one of the Beatles say they were better than Jesus or sg at one
point?  +Q

Md


> Free form jams. Those were the days <G>

> I saw the GD many years ago. Mr Garcia comes onstage and proceeds to tale 20
> minutes to tune his guitar before they kick into gear. There was a big grey
> area where it was impossible to determine where the tuning up ended and the
> music actually started <G>

> MS




> > > Actually the Grateful Dead where (and are) better than the
> > Beatles....
> > > Sorry to burst that bubble..... <G>

> > > **************************** Michael E. Carver

> > >      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> > Truckin' & Casey Jones  spring immediately to mind.  :))

> > Cheers,
> > Ron

Dave Henri

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Dave Henri » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

  John Lennon said something to the effect: that the Beatles were more
POPULAR than God...  and at that point in time he may very well have
been correct.
dave henrie

> Didn't one of the Beatles say they were better than Jesus or sg at one
> point?  +Q

> Md


> > Free form jams. Those were the days <G>

> > I saw the GD many years ago. Mr Garcia comes onstage and proceeds to tale 20
> > minutes to tune his guitar before they kick into gear. There was a big grey
> > area where it was impossible to determine where the tuning up ended and the
> > music actually started <G>

> > MS




> > > > Actually the Grateful Dead where (and are) better than the
> > > Beatles....
> > > > Sorry to burst that bubble..... <G>

> > > > **************************** Michael E. Carver

> > > >      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> > > Truckin' & Casey Jones  spring immediately to mind.  :))

> > > Cheers,
> > > Ron

m.seer

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by m.seer » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quite right about it being John Lennon.
The actual quote was "We are more famous than God"

Cheers

MS

>   John Lennon said something to the effect: that the Beatles were more
> POPULAR than God...  and at that point in time he may very well have
> been correct.
> dave henrie


> > Didn't one of the Beatles say they were better than Jesus or sg at one
> > point?  +Q

> > Md


> > > Free form jams. Those were the days <G>

> > > I saw the GD many years ago. Mr Garcia comes onstage and proceeds to
tale 20
> > > minutes to tune his guitar before they kick into gear. There was a big
grey
> > > area where it was impossible to determine where the tuning up ended
and the
> > > music actually started <G>

> > > MS




> > > > > Actually the Grateful Dead where (and are) better than the
> > > > Beatles....
> > > > > Sorry to burst that bubble..... <G>

> > > > > **************************** Michael E. Carver

> > > > >      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in
town.

> > > > Truckin' & Casey Jones  spring immediately to mind.  :))

> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Ron

Ace

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Ace » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


It will be contemporary in the fact that it models a 'modern' formula 1 car,
I concede that, but it'll still be out of date: Car performance data will be
old, liveries will be old, etc. Perhaps most importantly will it include the
latest circuits? OK, will it include Indy?
I am going to be spending a lot of time with the demo, when it comes out,
comparing it to F12k and old crock MGPRS2. I'm sceptical: Geoff Crammond
is'nt God, and GP3 is likely to lack a number of features. It  had better be
damn good before I spend hard-earned cash on it.

Ace

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Ace » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00



Ho, not me! I've seen the light! these blinkered fools cling to GPL, but I
have Spirit of Speed! I say to you one and all: This is the sim you have
waited for! Join me, and consign GPL's stinking carcass to the auto sim
graveyard whence it came

Andrew MacPhers

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Hehe, I didn't think you were :-)

Andrew McP

David Kar

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by David Kar » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Actually, I think the quote was more on the lines of an off-the-cuff "We're
bigger than Jesus."  I'm too lazy to look it up right now, so I offer it
provisionally.  But I remember it in part because a more-or-less funny book
came out in the mid-to-late 70's which was a "what-if-the-Beatles-reunited"
kind of thing, and in it, it turns out that what John *actually* meant when
he said "we're bigger" was that they were *taller* than Jesus.  Ha ha.

Anyhow, I'm sorry to say that in my area of the USA (the south), good ol'
boys and their lil' wimmin promptly organized Beatle-Burning parties (well,
Beatle *record* burning parties).  Evidently, that whole experience really
shook Lennon.  Lots of rabid hate-mail and so forth . . .

--DK


> Quite right about it being John Lennon.
> The actual quote was "We are more famous than God"

> Cheers

> MS


> >   John Lennon said something to the effect: that the Beatles were more
> > POPULAR than God...  and at that point in time he may very well have
> > been correct.
> > dave henrie


> > > Didn't one of the Beatles say they were better than Jesus or sg at one
> > > point?  +Q

> > > Md


> > > > Free form jams. Those were the days <G>

> > > > I saw the GD many years ago. Mr Garcia comes onstage and proceeds to
> tale 20
> > > > minutes to tune his guitar before they kick into gear. There was a
big
> grey
> > > > area where it was impossible to determine where the tuning up ended
> and the
> > > > music actually started <G>

> > > > MS




> > > > > > Actually the Grateful Dead where (and are) better than the
> > > > > Beatles....
> > > > > > Sorry to burst that bubble..... <G>

> > > > > > **************************** Michael E. Carver

> > > > > >      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in
> town.

> > > > > Truckin' & Casey Jones  spring immediately to mind.  :))

> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Ron

David Kar

GPL is best, so are the Beatles...

by David Kar » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Actually, none of us have been playing GPL since the end of 1998.  The
takeover of the newsgroup, WInVroc, etc., was all a big hoax (initiated by
Y2K Rick--good job Rick!), done simply to get your goat.  Ha!

HA!, I say!  We really had you going there, David Gee.

So . . . guys, let's call off the charade now.  You've all been very good,
very convincing.  But after all, summer's here!  It's time for mayonnaise!

---DK



> You're right. The same handful of guys will go on and on and on and on
about
> GPL no matter what.

> David G Fisher





> > > GP3 won't, simply because of the completely different physics between
> them
> > > and the eras modelled.  Even if the physics engines were identical,
the
> > > "feel" of GPL over GP3 would be like comparing chalk and cheese.

> > My feelings exactly.  I don't expect to be sliding through corners with
4
> > wheel drift in GP3, which is a large part of the charm of GPL.  Since
the
> > cars handle so differently, straight up comparisons aren't really in
> order.
> > For you flight sim fans, it'd be like comparing Red Baron 3D to European
> Air
> > War.  Both are great sims, but the subject matter is strikingly
different.

> > I really do hope that GP3 is a marvelous sim, and this isn't just some
> blind
> > GPL loyalty.  But I don't expect GP3 to wipe GPL off the board
regardless
> of
> > how great it might prove to be.


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