rec.autos.simulators

> >   The PTA mod for 03 isn't even a real car.

> None of this hobby is real...

> :D

> That is laughable, what advantages aside from the easier Multi code does
> 2003 have?  The game hasn't been released to 95% of the world yet and you
> are comparing it's modability to a franchise that had what 5/6 versions?
> I am a huge papy fan and can't wait for the first stuff, but to compare
> the two at this point is a total joke.
> How about immersion, physics, ai(who cares, but still)sound, sense of
> speed, 56 different models(compared to 1) and I could go on.

> Chad

>>    My impression of GTR so far, without having tried it of course - just
>> going from what I've read, is that to compare it with the PTA mod for
>> NR2003
>> we have -

>>    Advantages -

>> no discrepancy in front tyre temps
>> weather and day/night
>> *** going down on track - groove

>>    Disadvantages -

>> pretty much everything else

>>    Fair? Unfair?

>>    The disruption caused when someone joins stinks - reminds me of GP2
>> slowmo or something. Im a real "chain's as strong as it's weakest link"
>> type, and this is a very weak link. Though it will *probably* only be an
>> issue in prac sessions, it really just does render the driving worthless.
>> I
>> can imagine being on a pb type lap and having this stuff it up. Looks
>> like
>> turning up 5 mins b4 qual will be the norm. I hope they can either
>> program
>> this out by using only excess bandwidth to transfer skins or just do it
>> the
>> Papy way! Another thing I dont understand is why, at this point when
>> people
>> are no doubt just using the standard cars, is there even a need for skin
>> transfer. Aren't the cars already on each clients machine? Is there a
>> paint
>> program in the game?

>>    The other thing that is disappointing atm is the lack of driver change
>> overs. Can this really be so difficult? I hear that the addon will
>> address
>> this but I'm not sure whether it's just for LeMans or all the tracks?

>>    On a hopefully lesser note, look at all the great tracks available for
>> the PTA mod atm. No doubt the included tracks will suffice in GTR for 3-6
>> months or so, with a huge boost from the LeMans mod, but it makes you
>> wonder
>> how long it will take GTR to match NR2003 in the tracks dept - not too
>> long
>> hopefully, assuming it is actually possible.

>>    C'mon SimBin! I know it's easy for someone that doesn't need to sit
>> down
>> and do the code, but the 2 probs above surely aren't that hard to fix. I
>> want to see a sim that finally closes down/freezes GPLRank! :)

>> That is laughable, what advantages aside from the easier Multi code does
>> 2003 have?  The game hasn't been released to 95% of the world yet and you
>> are comparing it's modability to a franchise that had what 5/6 versions?
>> I am a huge papy fan and can't wait for the first stuff, but to compare
>> the two at this point is a total joke.
>> How about immersion, physics, ai(who cares, but still)sound, sense of
>> speed, 56 different models(compared to 1) and I could go on.

>> Chad

>>>    My impression of GTR so far, without having tried it of course - just
>>> going from what I've read, is that to compare it with the PTA mod for
>>> NR2003
>>> we have -

>>>    Advantages -

>>> no discrepancy in front tyre temps
>>> weather and day/night
>>> *** going down on track - groove

>>>    Disadvantages -

>>> pretty much everything else

>>>    Fair? Unfair?

>>>    The disruption caused when someone joins stinks - reminds me of GP2
>>> slowmo or something. Im a real "chain's as strong as it's weakest link"
>>> type, and this is a very weak link. Though it will *probably* only be an
>>> issue in prac sessions, it really just does render the driving
>>> worthless. I
>>> can imagine being on a pb type lap and having this stuff it up. Looks
>>> like
>>> turning up 5 mins b4 qual will be the norm. I hope they can either
>>> program
>>> this out by using only excess bandwidth to transfer skins or just do it
>>> the
>>> Papy way! Another thing I dont understand is why, at this point when
>>> people
>>> are no doubt just using the standard cars, is there even a need for skin
>>> transfer. Aren't the cars already on each clients machine? Is there a
>>> paint
>>> program in the game?

>>>    The other thing that is disappointing atm is the lack of driver
>>> change
>>> overs. Can this really be so difficult? I hear that the addon will
>>> address
>>> this but I'm not sure whether it's just for LeMans or all the tracks?

>>>    On a hopefully lesser note, look at all the great tracks available
>>> for
>>> the PTA mod atm. No doubt the included tracks will suffice in GTR for
>>> 3-6
>>> months or so, with a huge boost from the LeMans mod, but it makes you
>>> wonder
>>> how long it will take GTR to match NR2003 in the tracks dept - not too
>>> long
>>> hopefully, assuming it is actually possible.

>>>    C'mon SimBin! I know it's easy for someone that doesn't need to sit
>>> down
>>> and do the code, but the 2 probs above surely aren't that hard to fix. I
>>> want to see a sim that finally closes down/freezes GPLRank! :)