EZ killa :-)
I don't understand the hostility. Can't we just once talk about something
without it deteriorating into a "mine is bigger than yours" shouting match.
We had damage set to off at the roadies and thats when I lost my gears.
Dave's is unique which is why he was complaining, which is understandable.
IMO (and others are starting to see the light) Papy's offerings are losing
appeal. Why does this upset you so much? This isn't a Papy owned and
operated newsgroup so you can.... Nevermind see what happens?
As Dave said and Ill agree, I spend precious time getting ready to have some
fun and when something ridiculously random happens its upsetting to the
point of questioning a sims validity. Maybe Thunder is worse, I dont know
yet but after trying the demo Im going to spend some time trying cause IMO
it offers a better representation of the reality Im looking for in a Nascar
sim at this moment in time. If you like to run Nascar cars on a roller
derby rink as your reality then fine Im not getting upset at you am I?
Mitch
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:29:23 -0500, "David G Fisher"
> If you don't want a sim, why don't you just shut up and play Thunder?
> No offense, but I play sims because I want something that bears some
> resemblance to reality. Papy's damage model has faults, but those
> faults make it much less demanding than I personally would like it to
> be. I'd like to see fenders rubbing from wall or side to side
> contact, radiators cracking, explosions from fuel line ruptures,
> random engine failures (not saying they don't exist, I've just never
> had my engine let go unless I was abusing it). If the sim were as
> demanding as reality, you would very rarely be able to continue after
> most incidents in the game, and in the cases that you did you'd be
> staring at your monitor for an hour and a half while your crew pounded
> on the car.
> I will concede that Papy should have added an option to disable random
> failures (wasn't this an option in the pre-GPL days?). But if you
> want to be able to drive recklessly and not suffer the consequences
> just turn the damage off or set it to moderate (and I honestly can't
> say I've seen random failures occur with either setting).
> It disgusts me that people sit on this newsgroup and argue about
> realism, and then complain when realistic things occur in a sim. That
> makes no sense at all to me. There's no shame in simply wanting to
> have fun driving a car, and if that's the case you're in luck because
> a vast majority of racing titles are geared towards that mindset.
> Jason