rec.autos.simulators

by **Eldre** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 04:14:04

>It's amazing to me that die-hard Papy fans yearn for that company to produce
>a modern day F1 sim.With the chicaned-up tracks and absence of overtaking
>it's become as unthrilling as European football. And F1 will still not
>authorize internet play.....

Nah, there are enough modern F1 games out already. I'd rather see a CART
game...by *anybody*.

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by **Thom j** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 04:36:58

Go back to ur vaporware beta testing, quit wasting bandwidth space. :o)~

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by **Rob Swindell** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 04:47:00

I'm 21

"I hope I die before I get old"

> <yawn>

> Now this is boring.

> A bunch of old guys constantly pining for the old days when the old drivers
> drove the old circuits in the old cars.

> David G Fisher

> > First time in 6 years... I just turned it off :(

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by **Haqsa** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 05:49:01

> >It's amazing to me that die-hard Papy fans yearn for that company to
produce
> >a modern day F1 sim.With the chicaned-up tracks and absence of
overtaking
> >it's become as unthrilling as European football. And F1 will still
not
> >authorize internet play.....

> Nah, there are enough modern F1 games out already. I'd rather see a
CART
> game...by *anybody*.

> Eldred

I second that! I just watched the CART Grand Prix of Cleveland on TV
today. This weekend I also caught parts of the IRL race at Richmond,
the LeMans show on FSN, the Grand Am race that followed it, and the
NASCAR race at Milwaukee. That CART race was by far the most exciting
of all of them. Hopefully the Sierra folks saw that and they will
relent and let Papy do a CART sim!

by **Per Thuli** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 05:43:23

> Don't laugh...I believe there is an attempt at such a program being
> made.
> Imagine using the Quake III engine to enable a multiplayer event where
> you and your fellow teammmates join together to play the roles of the
> pit crew. dave henrie

>> What we really need is a modern F1 pitcrew simulator--to get us where
>> the action *really* is!

>> Jerry Morelock

I have a vague memory of a VERY old, primitive F1 management sim featuring
the pitcrew in an "arcade" sequence (on the good old Speccy, I believe).
Basically, you had to move your pit guys to the correct positions at
the tires and rear of car. The more money you spent on your pit guys, the
faster they would run. Seems about right...

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by **Gerry Aitke** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 06:26:01

> <yawn>

> Now this is boring.

> A bunch of old guys constantly pining for the old days when the old drivers
> drove the old circuits in the old cars.

Go away.

Gerry

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 06:52:17

> I have a vague memory of a VERY old, primitive F1 management sim featuring
> the pitcrew in an "arcade" sequence (on the good old Speccy, I believe).
> Basically, you had to move your pit guys to the correct positions at
> the tires and rear of car.

hey, I know that one. that's the one where the tyres changed color as
they were worn, right?

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by **Graeme Nas** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 05:21:37

But as you've found with sims, DGF, being newer and more modern is not
an automatic guarantee of quality...

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by **Ed Solhei** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:10:31

> > A bunch of old guys constantly pining for the old days when the old
drivers
> > drove the old circuits in the old cars.

> Go away.

HEY!!!
- Thats *my* line!

:-)
ed_

by **Per Thuli** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:00:16

>> I have a vague memory of a VERY old, primitive F1 management sim
>> featuring the pitcrew in an "arcade" sequence (on the good old Speccy,
>> I believe). Basically, you had to move your pit guys to the correct
>> positions at the tires and rear of car.

> hey, I know that one. that's the one where the tyres changed color as
> they were worn, right?

Quite possibly, yes. My memory of this is very faint. There are probably a
bunch of good reasons not to remember what it was called... :)

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by **Pierre Legra** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:20:34

A early 70's Sim would be incredible....just enough downforce to make
you feel invincible and just enough horsepower to scare the shit out
of an insane man. When did they stop racing the Ring...? The last year
they raced the Ring would be great...

Today's tracks are boring to tears....I keep staring at the variety of
Chicane....err I mean F1 sims out there and they just bore me. Besides
they all sound shit because of the inability to translate the sound
into a computer game.

PAPA DOC

> While there ARE indeed some who ask for a modern Papy F1 sim, & I agree
>why? With so many others out there...I think the main thrust of requests
>here have been for a late 70's or early 80's F1 era. That would provide us
>with the big horsepower/high downforce cars and the non-chicaned tracks in
>most instances.
>dave henrie

>> It's amazing to me that die-hard Papy fans yearn for that company to
>produce
>> a modern day F1 sim.With the chicaned-up tracks and absence of overtaking
>> it's become as unthrilling as European football. And F1 will still not
>> authorize internet play.....

>> > It was the 2nd most boring race I've ever seen after last weeks F1 race.
>> At
>> > least in CART and NASCAR you kmow there will be e***ment somewhere in
>> the
>> > race.

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>> > > First time in 6 years... I just turned it off :(

>> > > --
>> > > Rob Swindells
>> > > /////////////
>> > > Caps
>> > > Lock

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by **istof** » Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:48:02

Pitstop & Pitstop 2, if i'm not mistaken. The second one was a
classic IMO. 2 player splitscreen. lotta fun for its day. Its nice
how graphics have improved :)

by **Marc Fraio** » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 01:47:58

I'm not all that old-- I wasn't born yet in 1967, the year simulated
by GPL. My knowledge of that era pretty much comes from GPL itself, the
movie _Grand Prix_, and Speedvision's _Legends of Motorsport_. But it's
pretty clear to me that F1 was more interesting then than it is now.

There's still some very good racing out there today, but by and large,
it's not in F1. Clearly, compared to the 60s, something had to be done
to improve safety, and clearly, the teams will do anything they can to
make their cars faster (thus we get wings, traction control, &c). But I
think it's equally clear that in the process, something has been lost...

That said, I still watch modern F1, and I do enjoy it, to some degree.
Lately, I've been finding that qualifying provides more drama than the
race itself.

Marc

by JM » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 02:17:15

> >hey, I know that one. that's the one where the tyres changed color as
> >they were worn, right?
> Pitstop & Pitstop 2, if i'm not mistaken. The second one was a
> classic IMO. 2 player splitscreen. lotta fun for its day. Its nice
> how graphics have improved :)

publisher: CRL

year: 1983,1985 ?

title: Formula 1 (Manager)

http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~nac/cpcreviews/f/index3.html

has the Amstrad CPC version listed with a summary, and a downloadable game
file (for a CPC emulator I guess)

the CPC had the goodyear blimp on it also (I have the spectrum version on a
tape somewhere)

http://www.zxscreens.i12.com/zxscreens/formula_1_crl.htm (loading screens I
think)

http://www.worldofspectrum.org/games/f.html

has a spectrum version I think. It may complain about "deep linking" to the
site, so head for the archive.

This game was also resurrected on the Amiga but I forget the name in that
incarnation, and was also re-done and repackaged as a Touring Car management
game.

cheers
John

by JM » Wed, 04 Jul 2001 02:21:03

Say that to Nicki Lauda's face...

John