rec.autos.simulators

David G Fisher

I have driven GPL at lenght, I too ove GPL, its great fun when you are up to
speed, a thrill to dive and even good practice in the kart off season.

The fact is thought, that people are going too far in the glorification of
GPL.
The fact is that when the GPL demo first came out it was even worse to run
than F1 2000. Its 2 years old now, most people here have a system to more
than satisfy GPL now. Same when for GP2. Even on my current PC, going total
detail on GP2 can caue the odd little stutter on heavy duty tracks. And look
how old that is!

GPL's great, its just not the only sim out there.

I used to it, believe me!

Well Dave, its actually true.
I can't believe the amount of posts claiming o have taken the game back
after 1 trial run. Or even just a few days.

And at that there have been a fair few who, after initially finding it
lacking, fund it very good once given a chance.

How someone can buy the game one night, and then write a review the next
morning saying it's a failure is beyond me.

David G Fisher

I get your point, and kinda agree with it to a certain point. But when
I've to hunt down the Internet to make a game playable, then I
consider the release version a failure.

Remco

Andre

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Well to put it simply YES.

As the saying goes "If I had a penny for every time I read someone say they
returned it after 1 run.........."

First time out in F12K it can kinda suck alright.
Depending on your system the game will look totally ***as it tends to turn
as much detail off automatically as possible. After  few clicks on the
options screen this is fine.

The other factor is that guys either turn all aids on thinking they are in
for a ride or turning them all off thinking they can master GPL, these cars
are much easier!
Both are wrong!

If you turn them all on the game practically drives itself.
With them all off, no matter now GPL experienced you are you'll be all over
the place. Since its he first sim I've come across to *really* show the
effects of tire temperature, I see that some people don't seem to be able to
handle it. Thinking they are experts they will run without throttle help.
This in turn will mean they will spin alot and when the rear wheels turn
yellow on the LCD they don't take notice.
The other is the problem most people a the first few days of the sim. The
brakes locked too easily. There was a simple answer. The original setup in
the lame was totally lame, you just couldn';t drive with the thing. People
brought it back saying this was unrealistic.
Now the people who have continued to play it past the first few days made
the effort to actually setup the car. Currently with a good setup, I can
brake very hard without the brakes locking (unless they actually should!).

1 day racers are just hypocrites. You need to know the sim inside and out
before you can judge it fully.

Why would you care? Who is that guy anyway? I am kind of surprised
that you resented his version of how the evaluations went. Frankly I
thought you didn't give it enough time, or you were playing in on
a 233 P2 or something.

But like you said, time to move on.

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Well that does it. I need to apologize to ymenard and I will
certainly return the game now :-)

Not!

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% Why would you care? Who is that guy anyway? I am kind of surprised
% that you resented his version of how the evaluations went. Frankly I
% thought you didn't give it enough time, or you were playing in on
% a 233 P2 or something.

Gave it over a week on a PIII 650 with Voodoo3 3000....  enough time for
me to know that it was not the sim for me....  I don't need a new toy
just to have a new toy.  I want more from my toys than F12k could
deliver (even with the tweaks).  Those that are enjoying their new toy,
fine.  But, I gave it serious time and trouble because I wanted to enjoy
it.  It just didn't cut the mustard....  I like my beer dark and thick
and with alot of taste and others enjoy Coor's Lite.....   I don't plan
to***in their beer because it isn't up to my standards and expect
others to respect my tastes.....

% But like you said, time to move on.

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More detail?

Iain

I think Michael explained well enough in multiple messages the reasons.
Just use Deja.com

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