good information about it yet, but my first questions are
1. will it be a sim or arcade or hybrid?
2. how many real race tracks will there be?
1. will it be a sim or arcade or hybrid?
2. how many real race tracks will there be?
1. It's definitely a sim judging by the demo I've played, however, there's
not really much bump modelling so the tracks are pretty flat - possibly even
flatter than papy games. It looks like a lot of work has gone into it but I
can't see it setting any benchmarks in terms of physics modelling i.e. some
PC sims have a more realistic behaving tyre model etc. Reminds me a bit of
F355 Challenge as far as console sims go but the cars' weight transfer,
suspension etc are more advanced.
2. Quite a few. The demo features a nicely modelled Laguna Seca (albeit
without many bumps) I'm not sure if the full track list has been publicised
yet.
2.) Here's a link to the Forza website, which recently went live. The
short answer is 31, if you count the dragstrip. But the link will tell you
a lot of what you want to know about the cars and tracks in detail,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Not to mention you'll be playing it with a controller. Microsoft needs
> to (a) update the XDK to support force feedback controllers, (b)
> release
> a USB adapter, (c) support my Driving Force Pro in Forza. ;) Short of
> that, I have no interest.
The Forza demo already tells me that I'm not going to be able get what I
want out of it without a steering wheel - it demands more control precision
than I can deliver with my gamepad skills. I hope someone steps up to the
plate to meet this need. If you read the technical discussion of the XBox's
interface, it's not going to be easy.
--
Jone Tytlandsvik
http://tytlandsvik.no
Support in games. Built-in deadzone in games to make it behave nicely with
gamepads.
It's not a matter of "can-do" but "be willing to do", and not on the behalf
of game/sim developers necessarily.
Speaking of... why hasn't somebody made a force feedback wheel with a
'rumblers' built-in? It's amazing how much feedback you get from
vibration alone -- combined with force feedback it would be awesome.
Thanks for that link. Quite interesting (and a bit disappointing, really).
| They are ready and willing to make
|| a FF wheel for the Xbox, but something about the hardware/OS/SDK (I
| can't imagine what) prevents it. It's a real travesty, because there
| have been so many great racing games on the Xbox. PGR2 and RSC2 both
| would have been a blast with a good FF wheel. Neither are
| simulators, but both have very fun driving models and fantastic
| rumble feedback.
Yeah, a little forces can add a lot; even on arcadey stuff like Burnout 3,
for example, which is a blast on the PS2 with an FF wheel (and I can't play
it with a gampad, as arcadey as it is, the feeling of loss of traction is
just not there with a pad but it is with a wheel).
| Speaking of... why hasn't somebody made a force feedback wheel with a
| 'rumblers' built-in? It's amazing how much feedback you get from
| vibration alone -- combined with force feedback it would be awesome.
I guess the problem is that "rumble" carries no information about direction
at all. How would you know whether it's supposed to push left or right? It
just rumbles.
1. It's definitely a sim judging by the demo I've played, however, there's
not really much bump modelling so the tracks are pretty flat - possibly even
flatter than papy games. It looks like a lot of work has gone into it but I
can't see it setting any benchmarks in terms of physics modelling i.e. some
PC sims have a more realistic behaving tyre model etc. Reminds me a bit of
F355 Challenge as far as console sims go but the cars' weight transfer,
suspension etc are more advanced.
2. Quite a few. The demo features a nicely modelled Laguna Seca (albeit
without many bumps) I'm not sure if the full track list has been publicised
yet.
>1. will it be a sim or arcade or hybrid?
>2. how many real race tracks will there be?
http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1&page=8&pp=10
http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.
php?t=250&page=2&pp=10
It would be nice to have *in addition to* regular force feedback from a
wheel. It can give you a bit of that 'seat of the pants' feel. RSC2
uses it to great effect, letting you feel the motor (which adds to the
immersion) and letting you feel the car's connection to the road. If
you had it in a FF wheel, the wheel would let you feel understeer,
while the rumble would let you feel oversteer and fine detail of the
road surface. A side benefit might be reducing the noticeability of
'cog slack' in gear driven FF mechanisms.