rec.autos.simulators

by **The Other Larr** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:18:15

Frankly, I'd get the USB version of the MSFFW since you are happy with it,
and keep the old one for spare parts. That's exactly what I'm doing.

I personally don't think there's anything better out there to upgrade to,
except maybe the Momo (which in fact I tried, and it's been sitting in the
box after the first day because of the pedals). I always seem to go back to
the MSFFW.

Stick with whacha love :)

-Larry

> Shouldn't you be screaming and running *** and drunk through the streets
> now?:-) (Brazil 2-0 Germany) Congrats on a great Cup win.

> ...and now back to our topic...

> The MSFF wheel has been trouble free for almost 3 years for me. Just now
> starting to think about upgrading. I have the gameport version and have
had
> nothing but great experiences with it. I learned to drive the ring with it
> and will always say good things about it.

> > Here in Brazil the only easily available FF wheel is the one from
> > Microsoft. If I get it will I reasonably enjoy F1 2002 and GPL? Or is
> > it a better idea to try to get a better wheel?

> > Thanks,

> > Helio

by **The Other Larr** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:18:55

I'm going to deal with the nonsense of Win9x just for this?

LOL! I don't think so :)

-Larry

> two words---dual boot (98se/XP)

> > Because Microsoft no longer supports it, the SideWinder software will
not
> > work, and it will never, ever be upgraded.

> > Ever.

> > It is a dead end.

> > -Larry

> > Other

> > > >MAKE SURE IT IS A USB VERSION, NOT A GAMEPORT VERSION! I cannot
stress
> > > >enough the importance of this.

> > > Why? I *have* a gameport(PDPL, or whatever).

> > > Eldred
> > > --
> > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> > you
> > > with experience...

> > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Uncle Feste** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 12:00:18

> Luddites! It's more than change for the hell of it, a lot more. Do as
> I do and use a dual boot of Win98/XP and you won't have any problem
> games or game controllers to contend with. And if you're really
> adventurous try a triple boot of Win98/XP/Linux sometime for some more
> added fun with your PC.

Or quad boot Win98/XP/Linux/FreeBSD. :-)

--

Fester

by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 12:59:52

"Steve Lane"
It's not a Luddite thing....it's just NOTHING about an XP os that adds to
my ***. So that $100 to $200 buckos can be spent on a new wheel or
better cpu or vid card....Criminy...I turn on the computer, I load the game
and say goodbye to the OS...Until I have something that NEEDS xp, I cain't
see wasting money on it.
dave henrie

by **Jone Tytlandsvi** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 19:31:00

John, I have a feeling you did say the same about Win95 vs Win98. And Win3.1
vs Win95. And Win2.0 vs Win3.0. And......
Maybe some users change OS for change sake, but it sure is a big step in
technology if you move from Win98 to XP. If you go from W2k to XP it's more
an improved user interface and some other minor improvements. But release of
WinXP is big step for "mankind". Because they finally ditch the 16 bit based
OS line, and move also the home users to a 32bit NT based platform. Now
everybody can have a stable system, and it will finally be supported by
hardware and software developers.

Jone Tytlandsvik

by **Jone Tytlandsvi** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 20:04:48

If your rig works and you're happy with it, don't change it. But XP would
have added STABILITY to your ***. If I don't make it to the finish line
in a league race, I want to be able to blame it on myself, not Bill Gates.

Jone.

by **Richard Whitcomb** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 03:13:13

> > I'll wear out my pc before I give up 98 Dave :) XP; classic case of
> > change for change sake.

Different kernels, different design philosophy and a big leap forward in
technology.

9x compared to NT kernels no contest - NT wins everything hands down.

by **Richard Whitcomb** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 03:13:57

Cant we fit BeOS in here somewhere too :)

by **Chris H** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 03:44:08

Go to www.walmart.com. They've got Lindows machines on sale for as little
as $299. 8-)
--
Chris H.

by **The Other Larr** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 03:53:04

With all this Paladium ***floating around, they just might make a killing
on these!

I know this much. I'm never, ever selling old equipment after upgrading
again. Not with this Borg Technology on the way.

-Larry

> Go to www.walmart.com. They've got Lindows machines on sale for as little
> as $299. 8-)
> --
> Chris H.

> > > Or quad boot Win98/XP/Linux/FreeBSD. :-)

> > Cant we fit BeOS in here somewhere too :)

by **Frod** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 04:01:00

Except for game compatibility

--
Frode

by **Bill Ryde** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 05:29:09

>> 9x compared to NT kernels no contest - NT wins everything hands down.

> Except for game compatibility

Yep - and hardware compatibility. 98SE supports much more hardware. Try
programming an old thrustmaster device under any variant of NT.

---
Bill

by **The Other Larr** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 08:20:06

That's what XP is for.

XP has increased Game Compatibility far, far beyond what even Win2K
provided.

Remember, XP was designed to be a _home_ user operating system, and Win9x is
basically EOL.

-Larry

> > 9x compared to NT kernels no contest - NT wins everything hands down.

> Except for game compatibility

> --
> Frode

by **John Metco** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 09:33:24

hi
I am contemplating the same
but what advantages did you get
as far as *** is concerned ?

(EldredP) posted:

> >Gotcha. But I'm with Dave - I'm not going to XP
*anytime* soon...

> >Eldred

> Luddites! It's more than change for the hell of it, a
lot more. Do as
> I do and use a dual boot of Win98/XP and you won't
have any problem
> games or game controllers to contend with. And if
you're really
> adventurous try a triple boot of Win98/XP/Linux

sometime for some more

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by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 11:25:32

> > > I'll wear out my pc before I give up 98 Dave :) XP; classic case of
> > > change for change sake.

> Different kernels, different design philosophy and a big leap forward in
> technology.

> 9x compared to NT kernels no contest - NT wins everything hands down.

But WHAT does it do? What difference does this kernal or that kernal make
if I'm ***? I have had disco's from bad internet connections, but for
the life of me, after 3 years of online racing, I can't think of any OS
caused lockups during a race....I will admit my system has frozen, I have
been ctd'd before, I have gotten problems from time to time exiting
windows...but when I turn it on. And start a sim, the os goes away and I
can't think of any os related problems. Surely there has GOT to be some
reason to spend $100 or $200 dollars than just lockups? Gimmie the cash and
I'll move up another notch on the cpu scale.
davehenrie

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