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Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

Francois Bert

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Francois Bert » Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:00:00

        Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

                Thanks,
                                Francois Bertin

D.Flo

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by D.Flo » Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:00:00



>    Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
>choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
>simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

>            Thanks,
>                            Francois Bertin


Yes, Francois, the different combinations make a difference at all
tracks.
        Dale
Michael Bar

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Michael Bar » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

>                 Thanks,
>                                 Francois Bertin


Yes.  It goes something like this;

Lola - fastest at ovals.  Twitchy at road courses.
Reynard - best overall balance, great at road courses.
Penske - a dog.

Mercedes - highest top end, gas sucker at street circuits
Cosworth - almost as good at top end, better mid range, better fuel
economy.
Honda - sluggish through the mid range, best "come back" in six gear.
Ideal for ovals.

Firestone - better grip, less durability.
Goodyear - better durability, less grip.

Mike

John Wilso

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by John Wilso » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

I believe I have this right, and correct me if I am wrong, Jim, but the
chassis/engine/tire selection has no effect on the player himself, but
the AI values in drivers2.txt reflect 1995 PPG-IndyCar performances
(i.e. when Ford was still highly competitive, Reynard was in its rookie
year...).  The player can reset values in the performances file to his
or her fancy, but the other drivers' numbers are 1995's archives.
That's why when you download a carset (or CARTset) the values are
different because now Honda is the best, Reynard is the chassis of
choice, etc.

However, many people are frustrated with the concept of adding things in
the file, like the Swift chassis, Toyota (ugh, why?), and things to that
effect.  C'mon, guys, figure it out...!  :-)

John :|:

Jim Sokolo

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Jim Sokolo » Sat, 29 Mar 1997 04:00:00




>>         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
>> choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
>> simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

>I believe I have this right, and correct me if I am wrong, Jim, but the
>chassis/engine/tire selection has no effect on the player himself

I'm pretty sure (>99%) that it does affect the player car, but I don't
really know. (Basing this on the fact that it did in Indy500:The Sim,
and does in both NASCAR products, but I haven't really played our ICR
games, and I haven't worked on them much at all...)

---Jim Sokoloff

esetse

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by esetse » Sat, 29 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

>                 Thanks,
>                                 Francois Bertin


Yes, it does, in fact one of the web pages shows the fast laps and the
car model and engine used to get those laps.  It is pretty consistent
for type of track which one is best, for those fast guys anyway.
David Gar

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by David Gar » Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:00:00


> >         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> > choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> > simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

Francois,

The combinations do have different effects in ICR2.
The majority of world records have been set with
LOLA/HONDA/FIRESTONE But it also depends on your
driving skills. ALso there is contreversy weather
some of these records are true are not due to easily
"hacking" the property files, i.e. grip, speed, etc.
I dont know the incrementcies.

-DG-

Kai Fulle

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Kai Fulle » Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:00:00

From hat I know tire\chasis stuff DOES make a differance. THe only
reasoning is that in nascr 1\2 the fords are better on sort tracks poniacs
are all round andchvies are better super speedway. Hoosiers provide better
grip goodyear last longer.


> >         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> > choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> > simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

Jeff Vince

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Jeff Vince » Mon, 31 Mar 1997 04:00:00



   Hey, Jim, give ICR2 a try.  Heaven forbid, you just might enjoy
yourself!  :) :) :)


Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking...  Did he complain
to five or six postmasters last month?  Now, you must ask yourself one
question: "Do I feel lucky?"  Well, do you, punk?

Jim Sokolo

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Jim Sokolo » Tue, 01 Apr 1997 04:00:00





>>but I haven't really played our ICR
>>games, and I haven't worked on them much at all...)
>   Hey, Jim, give ICR2 a try.  Heaven forbid, you just might enjoy
>yourself!  :) :) :)

Too busy playing with Grand Prix Legends; way more fun...

---Jim Sokoloff

John Twitchel

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by John Twitchel » Wed, 02 Apr 1997 04:00:00


I'm jealous . :)

--
John Twitchell

I'm lost and I've gone to look for myself.

ymenar

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by ymenar » Thu, 03 Apr 1997 04:00:00


>         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

>                 Thanks,
>                                 Francois Bertin


Sans rapport avec la simulation de course automobile mais j'aimerais te
souhaiter la bienvenue avec nous.  C'est la premire fois que je te vois
sur r.a.s.  Les qubcois ici sont trs rares (3-4 au maximum) et c'est
avec enthousisame que je vois que je ne suis pas la seule personne au
Qubec aimer la course automobile.  Et ne sois pas gn de poster tant
que tu voudras.  Merci beaucoup,

Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy in rec.autos.simulators)
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ =ymenard now!!!

     [===]   Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,

     | ! |   And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
      |!|    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
      |o|    Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

    [--I--]      
       v  
Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league)
http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/
http://www.geocities.com/area51/vault/2804/index.html
http://www.starwars.com/      
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

Gregory Fu

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Gregory Fu » Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:00:00


>Sans rapport avec la simulation de course automobile mais j'aimerais te
>souhaiter la bienvenue avec nous.  C'est la premire fois que je te vois
>sur r.a.s.  Les qubcois ici sont trs rares (3-4 au maximum) et c'est
>avec enthousisame que je vois que je ne suis pas la seule personne au
>Qubec aimer la course automobile.  Et ne sois pas gn de poster tant
>que tu voudras.  Merci beaucoup,

>Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy in rec.autos.simulators)
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ =ymenard now!!!

C'est une grande suprise pour moi.  I would think that with JV so successful
that there are more racing fans in Quebec.  Last year's Canadian GP was huge
there, n'est-ce pas?

excuse the poor french, don't get to use it much out here.  Go JV!

Gregory Fung

Vancouver, B.C., Canada

Kai Fulle

Use of chassis-engine-tires selection in ICR2

by Kai Fulle » Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Once again.

tires and engin and chasis DO make a differance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




> >         Does someone know if the chassis, engine and tire brand
> > choices available for one's car in ICR2 have any influence in the
> > simulation, or if they are there just for fun?

> I believe I have this right, and correct me if I am wrong, Jim, but the
> chassis/engine/tire selection has no effect on the player himself, but
> the AI values in drivers2.txt reflect 1995 PPG-IndyCar performances
> (i.e. when Ford was still highly competitive, Reynard was in its rookie
> year...).  The player can reset values in the performances file to his
> or her fancy, but the other drivers' numbers are 1995's archives.
> That's why when you download a carset (or CARTset) the values are
> different because now Honda is the best, Reynard is the chassis of
> choice, etc.

> However, many people are frustrated with the concept of adding things in
> the file, like the Swift chassis, Toyota (ugh, why?), and things to that
> effect.  C'mon, guys, figure it out...!  :-)

> John :|:


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