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by **jon** » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:16:36

Saw both in the store...which one is better and why...thought I'd see
peoples opinions before spending money on them

thanks

jon

by **Gerry Aitke** » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:58:13

> Saw both in the store...which one is better and why...thought I'd see
> peoples opinions before spending money on them

> thanks

> jon

F1 2001 is the way to go, and what with all the modes available for it,
it make Crammonds piece of shit look like the reeking turd it is!

Gerry

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:09:24

F1 2002, no contest. If only for the GTR2002 mod(*).

GP4 isn't a bad game and might possibly provide a better experience if
you're confined to keyboard control, but with it Crammond is running so far
behind the times it's painfull.

Jan.
=---
(*): free download at www.sbdt.co.uk, but the site seems to have taken a
nosedive again.

by **Aide** » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:31:28

with GP4 you get................GP4

with F12002 you get........mod's galore..LOL all alot more value than the
original purchase price of either.

AD

by **Ian** » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:48:03

> with GP4 you get................GP4

> with F12002 you get........mod's galore..LOL all alot more value than
> the original purchase price of either.

> AD

A lot more value than the purchase price of *BOTH* ;)

--

Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>

by **Muzz** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:08:17

And the BPR Mod...
And the BMW M3 Mod...
And the many many more already available or still under development...

by **Paulinh** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:15:25

I have both and would recomend both !!
If you can only afford one i would get

GP4 - ultimate F1-sim
F1 2002 - Ultimate all rounder......

GP4 has loads of add-ons in the pipe line, Alfa cup, Indy cars etc etc, bt
F1 has GT, Touring cars etc etc etc, a little more open so a lot more to
do...

> > with GP4 you get................GP4

> > with F12002 you get........mod's galore..LOL all alot more value than
> > the original purchase price of either.

> > AD

> A lot more value than the purchase price of *BOTH* ;)

> --

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spammers>

by **jon** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:37:08

Well, ea's f1 2002 is 19.99 and gp4 is 59.99 so from the looks
of these opinions f1 2002 is the clear choice. I'm also going to get
a wheel and pedalset. gp4 is the ultimate sim in what way?

thanks

jon

>I have both and would recomend both !!
>If you can only afford one i would get

>GP4 - ultimate F1-sim
>F1 2002 - Ultimate all rounder......

>GP4 has loads of add-ons in the pipe line, Alfa cup, Indy cars etc etc, bt
>F1 has GT, Touring cars etc etc etc, a little more open so a lot more to
>do...

>> > with GP4 you get................GP4

>> > with F12002 you get........mod's galore..LOL all alot more value than
>> > the original purchase price of either.

>> > AD

>> A lot more value than the purchase price of *BOTH* ;)

>> --

>> Ian P
>> <email invalid due to spammers>

by **Jason Moy** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:58:45

F1 2002 is great if you like driving sportscars on horrible tracks or
think it's normal to 4-wheel drift a modern F1 car in every corner.

GP 4 is great if you want F1 cars that drive like F1 cars and don't
mind some ridiculous oversight.

Personally, I'm a GP4 guy buy your mileage may vary. The handling,
damage, tracks, and AI are miles above F12k2 and the bad bits are
mostly really ridiculous details that Crammond should have gotten by
now (like user-controlled cars all having the same performance...wtf).
If you have a decent rig (I play it at 50-60% occupancy on a 1.4gHz
athlon/ti4400) and prefer single player then GP4 is a no brainer imho.

Jason

by **Biz** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:30:14

Shop around, I have been seeing F1 2k2 for $9.99......at $59.99 GP4 is not worth considering.....
--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

by **ymenar** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:20:33

> GP4 - ultimate F1-sim

The ultimate
F1-sim-retarded-by-a-decade-because-Geoff-Crammond-is-out-of-reality

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **ymenar** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:21:30

> gp4 is the ultimate sim in what way?

I wouldn't even buy GP4 if it was free!
`

It's the ultimate sim of nothing.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Paulinh** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:38:28

There are a load of editors to tweak GP4 to make it better than the retail
box, same as F1-2002, as for the price, i think the dearest i`ve seen it in
the UK is 14.99, which isn`t very dear at all.... one shop had it for
9.99........

> >Saw both in the store...which one is better and why...thought I'd see
> >peoples opinions before spending money on them

> F1 2002 is great if you like driving sportscars on horrible tracks or
> think it's normal to 4-wheel drift a modern F1 car in every corner.

> GP 4 is great if you want F1 cars that drive like F1 cars and don't
> mind some ridiculous oversight.

> Personally, I'm a GP4 guy buy your mileage may vary. The handling,
> damage, tracks, and AI are miles above F12k2 and the bad bits are
> mostly really ridiculous details that Crammond should have gotten by
> now (like user-controlled cars all having the same performance...wtf).
> If you have a decent rig (I play it at 50-60% occupancy on a 1.4gHz
> athlon/ti4400) and prefer single player then GP4 is a no brainer imho.

> Jason

by **Nick** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:16:07

F1 2002 every time. I'd rather buy 2 copies of F1 2002 than buy a copy of
GP4.

Seriously though, Geoff Crammond was the king of modern F1 sims when GP2
came out (long time ago), it simulated an F1 car just about as realistically
as could be expected from computers at the time. Then GPL came out and
redefined the level of simulation possible on PCs, so everybody expected
*great* things of GP3. Unfortunately, GP3 turned out to be GP2 with wet
weather (although the wet track effects looked fantastic, even if they were
way too grippy).

GP4 is a backwards step even from GP3 in about every way. I don't really
know how he managed it, but Geoff managed to***up bigtime.

Let me put it another way, the GPx series doesn't even simulate gravity
properly. Even Tetris is better at simulating gravity, and that is *no*
exaggeration.

But GP3 is a damn fun game if you can see it around in a bargain bin.
Definitely the best in the series, and the extra money you will save can be
used on getting F1 2002 to compliment it.

by **Jason Moy** » Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:57:34

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC), "Paulinho"

>There are a load of editors to tweak GP4 to make it better than the retail
>box, same as F1-2002, as for the price, i think the dearest i`ve seen it in
>the UK is 14.99, which isn`t very dear at all.... one shop had it for
>9.99........

Do you know of any that work with the patch? I have the last patch
and a decrypted .exe and it seems like none of the editors support it.

Jason

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