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GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

John Metco

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by John Metco » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:09:35

hi
among these 2 , which has a better replay feature
one htat allows you to fast forward to the  point that
you want like GPL
also how is their replay angles ?
Frod

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Frod » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:49:22


You can fastforward and rewind (at a set speed though I think, haven't
tested it much). The angles leaves a bit to be desired as they're very
limited. Unless there's some key to switch through more angles that I
haven't stumbled upon. Basically I get the TV-style stationary camera,
in-cockpit view, and the T-bar camera.

I stand ready to be corrected on this, as it's a feature I haven't been
playing a whole lot with.

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Frode

Steve

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Steve » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:23:03



> > among these 2 , which has a better replay feature
> > one htat allows you to fast forward to the  point that
> > you want like GPL
> > also how is their replay angles ?

> You can fastforward and rewind (at a set speed though I think, haven't
> tested it much). The angles leaves a bit to be desired as they're very
> limited. Unless there's some key to switch through more angles that I
> haven't stumbled upon. Basically I get the TV-style stationary camera,
> in-cockpit view, and the T-bar camera.

> I stand ready to be corrected on this, as it's a feature I haven't been
> playing a whole lot with.

GP4's replay features are pretty much standard.  Its got play, stop,
FF, Rewind, FF to front and end of the replay, etc.  The only problem
is that there's no replay save feature.  You cant save the replay for
later viewing, gotta do it after the race or its lost.  The Camera
angles are great though, much better than EA's series.  Its almost
like watching it on TV; most are well placed unlike F1 2002.  Its
apples and oranges.
Andreas Nystr?

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Andreas Nystr? » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:27:06

Then again, F1 2001 & 2002 has fully editable tv-cams so you could put one
on the moon
if you wanted.

The nicest camera in 2001 and 2002 are those who shake by the wind when a
car passes :)




> > > among these 2 , which has a better replay feature
> > > one htat allows you to fast forward to the  point that
> > > you want like GPL
> > > also how is their replay angles ?

> > You can fastforward and rewind (at a set speed though I think, haven't
> > tested it much). The angles leaves a bit to be desired as they're very
> > limited. Unless there's some key to switch through more angles that I
> > haven't stumbled upon. Basically I get the TV-style stationary camera,
> > in-cockpit view, and the T-bar camera.

> > I stand ready to be corrected on this, as it's a feature I haven't been
> > playing a whole lot with.

> GP4's replay features are pretty much standard.  Its got play, stop,
> FF, Rewind, FF to front and end of the replay, etc.  The only problem
> is that there's no replay save feature.  You cant save the replay for
> later viewing, gotta do it after the race or its lost.  The Camera
> angles are great though, much better than EA's series.  Its almost
> like watching it on TV; most are well placed unlike F1 2002.  Its
> apples and oranges.

Frod

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Frod » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 04:53:05


GP3 2000 season is supposed to have the same replay GP4 has. That is, you
have the option to set how much you want to be able to replay (at a memory
usage penalty). Up to a max of 1.5hrs IIRC.

--
FRode

Bart Westr

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Bart Westr » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:19:39




message:

> >GP4's replay features are pretty much standard.  Its got play, stop,
> >FF, Rewind, FF to front and end of the replay, etc.  The only problem
> >is that there's no replay save feature.  You cant save the replay for
> >later viewing, gotta do it after the race or its lost.  The Camera
> >angles are great though, much better than EA's series.  Its almost
> >like watching it on TV; most are well placed unlike F1 2002.  Its
> >apples and oranges.

> It replays the complete race now? GP2/3 only replayed the last 20sec.
> or you could save a hotlap for replay.

GP3 2000 can record and save a maximum 1,5 hours of replay (you save it by
saving the game). GP4 has kept this system.

Bart Westra

Frod

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Frod » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:37:12


Out of curiousity, how large does this file get after 1.5 hours? A hotlap
seems to be a bit over 100k on average. That's a bit over a minute driving
time. So like 16-20 MB?

--
Frode

Gunnar Horrigm

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Gunnar Horrigm » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:06:30



> > GP3 2000 can record and save a maximum 1,5 hours of replay (you save it by
> > saving the game). GP4 has kept this system.

> Out of curiousity, how large does this file get after 1.5 hours? A hotlap
> seems to be a bit over 100k on average. That's a bit over a minute driving
> time. So like 16-20 MB?

a hotlap is only one car, no?  for replays you'll ned to save data on
every car on the track.  

there's nothing problematic about that, btw.
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Gunnar Horrigm

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Gunnar Horrigm » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 08:52:20



> bleeted:

> >a hotlap is only one car, no?  for replays you'll ned to save data on
> >every car on the track.  

> >there's nothing problematic about that, btw.

> If it's not problematic then why do so many racing sims not have the
> save game feature so I don't have to run a complete race in one
> sitting? I may just have to buy GP4 because it does have a save game
> feature.

oh, savegames.  don't know about those.  I thought we were talking
about replays.

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Gunnar
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Frod

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Frod » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:51:07


Depends how you set the hotlap. In free practise you're the only one on
track I think. But if you save a qualifying hotlap you can switch to the
other cars on the track while replaying the hotlap.

--
Frode

Bart Westr

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Bart Westr » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 08:10:43



> > GP3 2000 can record and save a maximum 1,5 hours of replay (you save it
by
> > saving the game). GP4 has kept this system.

> Out of curiousity, how large does this file get after 1.5 hours? A hotlap
> seems to be a bit over 100k on average. That's a bit over a minute driving
> time. So like 16-20 MB?

I have no idea, sorry. I never drove that long ---- in any sim :) I think a
replay lap will equal a hotlap without the performance data. I saved one
game after 2 and a half lap, it was 700KB. But this probably does not
extrapolate in a linear way if you do more laps.

Bart Westra

Frod

GP4 vs F1 2002 : which has better replay

by Frod » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 08:31:28


a

I like driving full length races. I feel that's where the true test of skill
lies. Being able to cope with the pressure of chasing cars and catching up
to the front runners etc for 1.5ish hours. I do save during those races, but
it's mainly cause I don't always have that much time in a go,  and I'm not a
big enough fanatic to ignore bathroom/coke refill breaks.

A friend of mine many years back challenged me on GP1 (WC). He was wicked
fast, but he didn't win a single race cause he was just unable to keep
clocking consistent laps and his average turned out way lower than mine over
the course of the race. It was especially amusing since he was a competition
freak. He absolutely could not stand losing and kept on coming back for
more. :)

--
Frode


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