rec.autos.simulators

from members that are trying to get faster.  Most of the time I can take
thier setups and get 2 or 3 mph faster..  Its a combination of things.
HARDWARE and DRiving line...

In other words, you freely admit that you are taking IVGA members' setups
and using them for your own personal use, above and beyond hotlap
verification.  How many of these IVGA members knew beforehand  that you
were going to do this?

Randy

I have a completely different style, and I would share my setup with
anyone, anytime.  I am in the belief that if that person wants to run
my setup, great!  If they're faster than me with that setup, I am very
interested in knowing that!  (that would tell me who the better driver
is)... of course, the conditions should be the same...

A setup that runs X speed depends on weather factors.  I might turn in
a 175.200 mph lap at X track with 60 degree weather, and someone else
may only turn a 173.500 mph lap with it in same conditions, yet take
it to a 55 degree weather and turn a 178.300 mph lap, for instance...

truth be known, he's probably faster with his own setups than with
theirs anyhow... (just an opinion from an outsider looking in)

Guy Brosseau

i wonder who u blistered at mis and atl
i have been driving on hawaii since sept 15 96 and who is on top of the
qual board
u have done a 196? at mis or 190s at atl
can u guess who i am?

: i wonder who u blistered at mis and atl
: i have been driving on hawaii since sept 15 96 and who is on top of the
: qual board
: u have done a 196? at mis or 190s at atl
: can u guess who i am?

  Obviously someone with poor grammer, punctuation, & capitilization skills.

Don,

I respect what the IVGA has seemingly stood for. You gave guys a chance to
compete against other drivers in a controlled environment before Hawaii was
available. I don't know about the Fastlap program other than what's been
discussed here. It does appear that it was not made clear that IVGA would
have access to the driver's setups. You say you're the only one that's ever
had access to the Fastlap driver's setups. Whether it's true or not doesn't
mattter. Many people aren't going to believe it.

I am disturbed by the fact the quotes from Ed Martin and Dave Matson in your
post look like PRIVATE EMAILS from Papyrus to you. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but it appears that you have broken a BASIC UseNet Etiquette rule by posting
Papyrus's PRIVATE EMAILS on the Net for the world to see. I realize this is
not a major crime and hope that it's not an indicator of how you treat other
people's private data. Actually, I'm glad you did. Now we can see that
Papyrus was being reasonable and have very valid concerns. You can't deny
that there is a huge conflict of interest when the management/staff
of an organization have access to 600-2600 of, as you say, the best drivers
in the world's setups and then decide they want to go racing on a new league
where fairness is an obssesion of it's creators.

I think this thread should have been worked out in private. I'm
absulotely sure things would have worked out much better for you.

Good Luck,
Mike Radler

Well Don, you must have a lot of problems. It would be a honor for me to
race against Ripp, Nim etc. etc. !

Georg

Man am I glad we at NCAR didnt use your software.

FWIW The competition on SprtSims still works quite good without any of
your software.

Georg

Hi Don,

You are joking, arent you ? If not I must say yeah Don, you are the man
!!!

And you even publicity state that you tested the setups your software
gathered for you. Very nice.

Georg

I think your definition of GET may not be exactly the same as Don's in
this case.
It sounds like members who are looking for help.

The problem I have is the verification process itself.
There isn't a need to send in the setup itself.
The program should have simply sent in a pass/fail check for a "hexed"
setup.

The other thing I find wrong is it appears that the program only sends
Default.st1.

If you load your "hexed", race, then load a legit setup and quit, the
verification program doesn't seem know the difference.

I would have suggested the disqualification if any *.stg or Default.st1
file (at the track in question) was "hexed".

In the "Fast Lap Hack Challenge" I showed Don that the Fast Lap progam
still has some serious holes.

Mike

--
Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

Hi Georg,

Also a pleasure for me when every you and I meet on the track.:)

Thanks,
Nim

Hi Mike,

Yes, possible that I interpreted to much in his statement. My apologies to
Don if I misinterpreted him.

It should be clear to everybody that no cheat-protection program is 100%
save.

Georg