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The cars handle very well (easy to drive but hard to master)...

3rd. party add-ons on the Net are plenty...

The only let down is the AI but there are quit a few "unofficial" patches
around....

At least try the demo and feel it....

| The tracks are beautiful(the best of any game by far )...
| The cars handle very well (easy to drive but hard to master)...
| 3rd. party add-ons on the Net are plenty...
| The only let down is the AI but there are quit a few "unofficial" patches
| around....
| At least try the demo and feel it....

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119.15 MB? Even with my ISDN link that's going to take a leeetle while. Is
it on a cover CD in the UK anyone?

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"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

from http://www.gamesdomain.com/demos/demo/1378.html

# Equipped with GPS receivers, Ubi Soft development teams (based in
# France) have made extremely accurate 3-dimensional plottings of each
# of the circuits including the width of the track, layout, rumble
# strips, crash barriers, surface irregularities down to the position
# of pits.

uhm...  I thaught commercial GPS devices only had an accuracy of about
10 meters..?

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Which, in a sport where the term "inch perfect" is used as a matter of
course, isn't all that good on the face of it.

Jan.
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So basically, a great hotlapper.

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Yea, but that's all you need to get the general position of the pits.

i asked the same question a while ago.  apparently by a combination of
triangulation, taking multiple readings on different devices,  voodoo,
etc, you can achieve much greater precision.

search google for the original post in this newsgroup for more
details. :)

Regards all,
istoff

"Its easy to get lost in thought
if you don't go there often"    - Me, 1993

The AI *are* a pain on the first lap  and during rainy conditions when
somebody messes up.  I don't mind it that much though.  I tend to
avoid the f&ckups by anticipating them I guess.  I know thats not
realistic, but I don't care as I want to enjoy the game and not ***
about it.

The AI also don't seem to have differing pit stop strategies when
conditions change.  One lap to go and it starts raining.  Leader has a
15 second lead.  Yep, he makes a pit stop.   I know some of these
things are fiddly to program, but it can be done.   I hope that the AI
patch addresses more than the accident avoidance problems.

That said, it is still by far my favourite of the current F1 sims.
Driving around Interlagos is just soooo damn beautiful.   I love the
detail on (and off) the tracks.  The addons are getting better &
better.  I like the force-feedback as it seems to model different
surfaces quite nicely.  Just touching the kerbs and riding up actually
have a nice distinction(difference in feel)  between them.

Its not a perfect game, but i love it nonetheless.
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Regards all,
istoff

"Its easy to get lost in thought
if you don't go there often"    - Me, 1993

;-)

/Carl

I've just uninstalled it. I thought it was just going to be a case
of get the braking points right and all will be well. Racing at Albert
Park alot of today and it was just total frustration. I ended up
setting ABS and anti-sliding to 100% and attempting to brake as late
as possible was still being punted, even though my fastest lap
exceeded the AI's by 2 seconds.

Trying to dive inside the AI for the corner and win it with half a
car length just to have the AI turn into me and send me flying in the
air. Try the same thing in GP3 and the AI will conceed the corner.

I ended up winning the a because the backmarkers held up the leaders
and in the mess of AI rubble, I was able to lap them twice. Panis was
coming second and 1st spun last at the end of the straight. In the
replay, Panis just sped fullspeed into a stationary car without even
the slightest hint of trying to avoid the car infront, then there was
chaos.

This was indicitive of other tracks I had tried.

I then tried F1CS and it just feels like the car is floating on the
track and I have no centering spring (even tried setting it to 150%
in the LWFF control panel and still nothing).

I love driving the sim, but the AI is blind and they break way too
deep. I'm probably a better than average sim driver, but the AI is
just way too aggressive for me. I just can't brake that deep into
every corner.

It's time to go back to MBTR.

Cheers,
Rod.

In fact as Jan Verschueren said here, the accuracy is now the same as the
original military standards, the deliberate dithering to reduce accuracy has
been turned off.

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Tony Whitley
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MonsterRank 460+ and falling...
"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

| Couple of guys in this group think we are the problem and not the AI,
| no matter how many people say otherwise.

| >I've just uninstalled it. I thought it was just going to be a case
| >of get the braking points right and all will be well. Racing at Albert
| >Park alot of today and it was just total frustration.

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